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Old June 17th, 2007, 12:54 AM   #1
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Kobe Tells Busw He Wants Out..Again


It appears that Kobe is not backing down of asking for a trade. I really have been on the side that Kobe is just posturing. However, after this article today, I think there is a good chance Kobe is moved now. The Lakers are NEVER going to get fair trade value but I am leaning towards he won't be a Laker anymore. See the article.

Source: Bryant tells Buss that he wants out


Jerry Buss met with his unhappy $88.6-million employee, Kobe Bryant, for a get-together Friday between owner and superstar in the somewhat surprising setting of Spain.

They had spoken by phone two weeks ago, a few days after Bryant asked to be traded, but this was a longer, more emotional conversation.

Buss wanted to appeal to the nine-time All-Star, reminding him that trades take time to develop and that winning remains the focus of the organization, but Bryant voiced concerns about the direction of the franchise and reiterated his demand to be traded, said a source with knowledge of the situation.

"That's the message that came out of it," the source said.

Team sources vehemently insisted there were no plans to trade Bryant, and they were still hopeful that a peaceful solution could be reached. Bryant and Buss are expected to resume their dialogue in the near future.

Bryant's displeasure has grown steadily since the Lakers were eliminated by Phoenix last month in the first round of the playoffs. The Lakers are 121-125 since reaching the NBA Finals in 2004, not including their first-round exits the last two seasons.

Last month, Bryant publicly requested that Jerry West return to the team's front office — an unlikely scenario — and urged General Manager Mitch Kupchak to make trades that would steer the team in a winning direction.

"I'm still frustrated," Bryant said at the time. "I'm waiting for them to make some changes."

The Lakers have contacted numerous teams, but there have not been any blockbuster deals yet — by them or by any other team in the league.

Talks with the Indiana Pacers for six-time All-Star forward-center Jermaine O'Neal have stalled because the Lakers do not want to give up both Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum to get O'Neal.

Trade talks around the league are expected to heat up as the June 28 draft approaches and could continue into the free-agent period that begins July 1.

Bryant was vacationing in Spain and stopped by to see a practice session of his favorite soccer team, FC Barcelona, on Thursday. Buss had been in China since leaving the U.S. more than two weeks ago. He planned to travel to London before returning to Los Angeles, although it was unclear whether he went to Spain specifically to talk to Bryant.

"What they talked about and what went on between Kobe and Dr. Buss is private and will remain between the two of them," Lakers spokesman John Black said.

Bryant's agent, Rob Pelinka, did not return calls seeking comment.

Bryant, who will be 29 in August, has four years left on his contract, but he can void it in two years.

The two-time scoring champion, widely acknowledged as the game's most dynamic player, has the NBA's top-selling jersey and is a significant draw at Staples Center. The Lakers are very cognizant of his importance in driving ticket sales, as well as his effect on corporate sponsors.

Buss, who signed off on Bryant's seven-year, $136.4-million contract in July 2004, released a statement two weeks ago in which he said, "We will continue to pursue every avenue possible to improve our team with him as the cornerstone."

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Old June 19th, 2007, 01:13 PM   #2
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If you are the Lakers, you give up Odom and Bynum for O'Neil. Yes, you don't want to give up on Bynum, but you won't get even trade value for Bryant if you have to trade him.

Kobe + O'Neil >>>>>>> sans Kobe with whatever they could get for him + Odom + Bynum.
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Old June 19th, 2007, 01:17 PM   #3
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If you are the Lakers, you give up Odom and Bynum for O'Neil. Yes, you don't want to give up on Bynum, but you won't get evil trade value for Bryant if you have to trade him.

Kobe + O'Neil >>>>>>> sans Kobe with whatever they could get for him + Odom + Bynum.
yup - they're idiots if they don't make that deal.
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Old June 19th, 2007, 01:18 PM   #4
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I don't get it...this is almost the same exact story from last week. What the hell?


Edit: Ah, it IS the same story from Friday/Saturday. I thought I was going crazy...

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Old June 19th, 2007, 01:23 PM   #5
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While im growing tired of the kobe drama, I really dont see the problem behind bynum/odom for JO

You still have a dominating frontcourt of JO, Kwame, and turiaf off the bench.

Do they really need 50 big men?
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Old June 19th, 2007, 03:22 PM   #6
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While im growing tired of the kobe drama, I really dont see the problem behind bynum/odom for JO

You still have a dominating frontcourt of JO, Kwame, and turiaf off the bench.

Do they really need 50 big men?
Using the word "dominating" and "Kwame" in the same sentence...
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While im growing tired of the kobe drama, I really dont see the problem behind bynum/odom for JO

You still have a dominating frontcourt of JO, Kwame, and turiaf off the bench.

Do they really need 50 big men?
I agree. It just makes you want the Lakers to come out and say we won't trade Kobe under any circumstances. Instead they are trying to say that in a passive way that they PLAN on Kobe being there. Either that or Kobe should just say that he will never play in a Laker uniform again versus I have asked to be traded.
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