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Old July 10th, 2007, 07:39 AM   #1
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hahah-....hmmm...interesting


Saw this on espn boards, I laughed, then began to think about it

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...16~21~13~11~21

quite interesting imo.

I think pacers would be the first not to budge.

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Old July 10th, 2007, 07:41 AM   #2
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wow. Why would MIN make that trade? That does not make them better now, or in the future, unless Marion opts out. In that case, they might as well have kept KG.
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Old July 10th, 2007, 08:00 AM   #3
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I really dont think minnesota is in the 'better now' business when considering a garnett trade...

Marion staying or opting out helps them either way with a replacement vet or as expiring contracts and just because we dont want kwame doesnt take away the fact that he is a young athletic big man with slight annual improvement.

oh add lakers 2008 to min and ours to pacers, forgot that part.
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Old July 10th, 2007, 09:09 AM   #4
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Can someone quote the link for me, or give me the jist of it. The link is blocked at work.
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Old July 10th, 2007, 09:40 AM   #5
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Why would the Lakers make that trade?
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Old July 10th, 2007, 09:41 AM   #6
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Can someone quote the link for me, or give me the jist of it. The link is blocked at work.
Los Angeles Lakers



Incoming PlayersJermaine O'Neal
Salary: $18,084,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 19.4 REB: 9.6 AST: 2.4 PER: 18.86
Marcus Banks
Salary: $3,600,000 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 4.9 REB: 0.8 AST: 1.3 PER: 11.41

Outgoing Players: Kwame Brown, Lamar Odom
Phoenix Suns



Incoming PlayersIke Diogu
Salary: $2,137,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 6.2 REB: 3.4 AST: 0.4 PER: 15.01
Kevin Garnett
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 22.4 REB: 12.8 AST: 4.1 PER: 24.20

Outgoing Players: Shawn Marion, Marcus Banks, Kurt Thomas
Indiana Pacers



Incoming PlayersRicky Davis
Salary: $6,364,400 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.0 REB: 3.9 AST: 4.8 PER: 15.97
Lamar Odom
Salary: $12,348,596 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 15.9 REB: 9.8 AST: 4.8 PER: 16.20

Outgoing Players: Jermaine O'Neal, Ike Diogu
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Incoming PlayersShawn Marion
Salary: $15,070,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.8 AST: 1.7 PER: 20.87
Kwame Brown
Salary: $8,287,500 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 8.4 REB: 6.0 AST: 1.8 PER: 13.79
Kurt Thomas
Salary: $7,821,482 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.6 REB: 5.7 AST: 0.4 PER: 11.37

Outgoing Players: Ricky Davis, Kevin Garnett
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Old July 10th, 2007, 09:43 AM   #7
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Why would the Lakers make that trade?
Because they get Jermaine O'Neal without giving up Bynum?
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Old July 10th, 2007, 09:54 AM   #8
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For once, an interesting trade scenario.
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Not that bad on all accounts IMO. The only question I have is whether the Pacers would want LO and Ricky Davis.
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Old July 10th, 2007, 12:35 PM   #10
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For once, an interesting trade scenario.
interesting? maybe, realistic? no

Minnesota has no reason to even think about this. 2 expiring contracts and Marion who has threatened to opt out for their 2 best players. If Minnesota was just looking to dump salary they would demand that some of their bad contracts go in place of Davis and even if that didn't work they would just keep KG and let him walk next summer. 1 year of KG is worth more then 1 year of Marion, Thomas & Brown.

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Old July 10th, 2007, 01:09 PM   #11
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interesting? maybe, realistic? no

Minnesota has no reason to even think about this. 2 expiring contracts and Marion who has threatened to opt out for their 2 best players.
Right. As with most multiteam proposals on message boards, there's one team that completely gets the shaft, and in this case it's Minnesota. If all they want is cap relief, they can spend the season sucking and let Garnett leave.
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Old July 10th, 2007, 01:26 PM   #12
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Lakers and Suns would have to pony up some draft picks
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Right. As with most multiteam proposals on message boards, there's one team that completely gets the shaft, and in this case it's Minnesota. If all they want is cap relief, they can spend the season sucking and let Garnett leave.
It's more than that. Next summer, the Wolves will be below the cap and can still expect to work a sign and trade without bothering with expiring contracts. His huge contract this year makes him extremely hard to move.
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It's more than that. Next summer, the Wolves will be below the cap and can still expect to work a sign and trade without bothering with expiring contracts. His huge contract this year makes him extremely hard to move.
They won't be under the cap unless they renounce Garnett, at which point they'd have no leverage whatsoever for sign-and-trades, since they would have forfeited their ability to offer the extra year or bigger raises.
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They won't be under the cap unless they renounce Garnett, at which point they'd have no leverage whatsoever for sign-and-trades, since they would have forfeited their ability to offer the extra year or bigger raises.
Assuming Hoopshype is correct and their projected salary would be $61.3 million before Garnett opted out; then without Garnett it would be $37.3. million. This would mean they could use a sign and trade up to the cap without any reference to his bird rights.
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