YouJustGotSUNSD

Definitely reading too much into this but:

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...e_by_deadline/


Im sure the BYC fubars it, but after dec 15th:

Memphis In
Nocioni
Marion
Banks

Memphis Out
Gasol
Miller
Warrick
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Chicago In
Gasol

Chicago Out
Thomas
Nocioni
Noah
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Phoenix In
Miller
Warrick
Thomas
Noah

Phoenix Out
Marion
Banks


Nash
Bell/Barbosa
Miller/Warrick
Hill/Diaw/Thomas
Stat/Skinner/Noah

Its no substitute for Marion, but might be worth considering. Ridiculously deep, stock of youth talent, so may be useless to our team considering dantoni.



A future of

Strawberry
Barbosa
Miller/Thomas
Warrick/Noah
Stat/Diaw

and ATL pick seems stupendous.

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Divide Et Impera

That would be a coup for the Suns at the Griz's expense. Hell, CHI really is giving out too much for just Gasol. We MIGHT be able to snag Miller/Thomas/Swift for Marion/Banks, but not Warrick even if he is not being used much this year. Maybe a 2nd deal where we send Diaw for Warrick/salary dump? I really think Warrick would be very close to what Marion does on this team....

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YouJustGotSUNSD

Mem would have to send Lowry to CHI as well probably.

Iavaroni would gladly give up gasol/miller for Marion/Nocioni: they fit his style perfectly (ie: they fit our style perfectly.)

This gives chicago a threat everywhere on the floor: gordon/hinrich at the 3, deng inside the arc, gasol in the pait, and wallace gets the scraps and gets some great help D. Gasol is also a great passer for a big man.

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arwillan

if we could get gasol here somehow for marion, i'd be thrilled. other than that, no deal. we can't trade marion for tyrus thomas and others at this point in the year... marion is going to help us win NOW.

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cly2tw

Since when has robery been declared legal here?

Seriously, even if Mem like Marion and Nocioni they still need a balanced roster to win. And the roster your suggensted deals leave them with is not close to balanced.

krispydude

marion and banks for miller, warrick, TT and noah?? damn, that would be hard to pass up.

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Black Jesus

thats getting a lot and giving a little. Both of our draft picks would have to be involved.

JCSunsfan

Interesting. While the trade looks uneven from Phoenix's point of view (in our favor) its not bad at all form Memphis or Chicago either. Its not out of the range of possibility.

The problem.

Marion would not agree to an extension with Memphis and would shoot this whole thing down.

YouJustGotSUNSD

Bump for memphis and chicago rumors heating up again, and phx needing to make a change.

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YouJustGotSUNSD

Yahoo reporting Chicago may be looking to move Wallace:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...1~21&te=&cash=

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The Commish

Yeah good luck with that.

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cheesebeef

here's a deal i would seriously think about doing, provided we could convince PJ Brown to come out of retirement.

Shawn Marion and the Hawks pick for Mike Miller and Damon Stoudamire.

I think DA is slowly realizing that he needs more size, more shooting and a backup for Nash. He also knows that Marion's game can be shut down in the playoffs and the way we're defending down low, we just can't run this system, especially without the shooters need to offset the horrific defense. So, what does this kind of move do for us? Here's the starting lineup.

Nash
Bell
Hill
Amare
Skinner

Bench
Stoudamire
Barbs
Mike Miller
Boris Diaw
PJ Brown

That team now has FIVE three point shooters, a bona fide backup PG with Damon, two guys who can absolutely light it up on offense with Miller and Barbs, and bonafide backups at both PF AND C.

What would that team REALLY lose with Marion gone? His run outs and fastbreak points? Well, considering he doesn't get those in the playoffs, that doesn't really matter. His inability to guard Tony Parker (who's he put on repeatedly to no fualt of his own)? Well, with two bona fide bigs in there at all times, the lane won't be wide open for him to cruise to anyway... and he couldn't be hidden on ANYONE on that team. And with PJ, we have a guy who gives both Duncan and Dirk fits.

As far as Miller and Damon, we're getting our first actual play makiing PG who can stroke the three and run and with Miller, you've got a money three poin shooter, who's averages 7 boards a game from the two-three spot who also has passing skills.

That deal above would be an absolute dream. Imagine 5 three point bombers, 4 guys who can create for themselves or others (Nash, Damon, Miller and Hill), two legit C and Amare and Boris. No one could stop that team.

The question really then is: Why in the world would Memphis do it? And to be honest, I don't know. Maybe both sides sweeten the pot and we make it Marion and Barbs for Miller, Damon and Darko (which we'd probably have to do because PJ ain't coming out of retirement). I'd probably do that too.

That deal would basically make Amare, Miller and the Hawks pick as the building blocks for the future, which I actually like more than Barbs and Amare simply because Barbs is a man without a position as the ultimate tweener and it gives us the versatility, size, shooting and depth this team is aching for right now.

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YouJustGotSUNSD

Low value for Marion imo. Damon is also a big fat question mark if you factor in Dantoni.

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