Gambo and Ash: 6 players the suns are looking at

YouJustGotSUNSD · June 15th, 2007, 01:53 AM

Taken from ESPN boards:

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They dropped some names on Gambo and Ash yesterday. These are some players that the Suns want to bring in. Idealy they'd like one from each category, some will cost more then others:
Point Guards: Kerr really likes Delonte West and he'll be part of any deal done with Boston (if a deal gets done with Boston). He's an expiring deal for over 3 million. Chris Duhon is on the block and the Suns wanted him more than any PG last year. He was their first choice, not Salmons and not Banks. He also is an expiring deal for over 3 million.
The Swings: You already know about Grant Hill, and the feeling is mutual on the Suns end. A name you haven't heard much about is Devin Brown. He's a free agent and apparently the Suns think he'll be great on the team and could come spell Raja and not miss a beat. Personally I think he'll be a much much better choice then Grant Hill. He's even better than Bell IMO.
The Bigs: PJ Brown is someone the Suns would like to get. They'd more or less like to get him on a vet mininum and trade away KT for cap space. If they get him, expect a trade. And last but not least expect Ronnie Turiaf to get some play. Asher especially likes him.

I personally think Turiaf, Hill, and either west or duhon would be great additions to this team.

Turiaf coming off the bench will certainly increase our boards. I think hes a great motivator and plays with a big heart (literally! he has like an enlarged aortic valve or something!)

Hill is a given and if he can avoid injury should be a great asset to us.

And a backup PG is probably the most crucial addition we need IMO

Problems:
How do we get turiaf? He is super cheap and we have nothing close to offering for him that would keep within the 125% trade limit

Hill was put on the spot with his interview. While I dont doubt he would like to play with the suns, im sure is happy living in orlando where he already is. If he would sign for the vet minimum I think it would be more official by now.

Duhon seems pretty obtainable, and would be a great backup. Hell id love to see some magic worked with duhon and a nocioniS&T for banks/diaw/#24

cly2tw · June 15th, 2007, 03:26 AM

Why do the Bulls want get rid of Duhon? They don't have a real PG. Are they gonna draft one?

If we really like West that much, let's do the Boston deal, Marion/Pike for Ratliff, Gomes, West, #5. Sign Devin Brown who I remember was quite good with the Spurs for young leg. Send JR somewhere for cap. Trade Ratlif and Atl 08 pick to Nugs for Camby. Restructure KT's contract.

Camby/Amare/Diaw/Bell/Nash
KT/LB/Brown/West/#5/#24

That's some lineup there.

hcsilla · June 15th, 2007, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cly2tw

Why do the Bulls want get rid of Duhon? They don't have a real PG. Are they gonna draft one?

I don't think so.

I never understood why they would like to get rid of Duhon but reportedly they do.

I hope that Marion won't get traded to Boston so we can cross West.

Devin Brown is a solid backup SG, he is poor man's Bell. Brown is just the shadow of his former himself, I really doubt that he would contribute even the half what KT did.

Turiaf would never make the team under D'Antoni.

I would happily trade Banks, Jones, #24 and #29 for Duhon (perhaps in a 3 or 4 team-trade) if it would be guaranteed that Brown and Hill would sign for the vet min.
Then we would kill two birds with one stone: seriously upgrade the bench while saving money.

YouJustGotSUNSD · June 15th, 2007, 05:00 AM

Turiaf could do everything KT does but with less experience and more hustle and spirit I think.

hcsilla · June 15th, 2007, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by YouJustGotSUNSD

Turiaf could do everything KT does but with less experience and more hustle and spirit I think.

Turiaf is a hustle player, he has no jumper and post-up defense. He would never play for the Suns.

YouJustGotSUNSD · June 15th, 2007, 05:49 AM

If anything, he would motivate our other frenchman to play to his max potential.

That plus the rebounds would be worth more than most our current bench

slinslin · June 15th, 2007, 05:55 AM

Chris Duhon - basically the same player Banks is but would cost us something to get..

Delonte West - Could be decent.

Turiaf - Black Mark Madsen, maybe 20% the player Thomas is

PJ Brown - Has less left in the tank than Thomas

Grant Hill - Would be nice.

I think its pure speculation by Gambo and Ash... They just read that Duhon is on the block and they know they wanted him before and now that has to mean the Suns want him now.

azirish · June 15th, 2007, 06:35 AM

Other than Hill, I think this is all irrelevant.

PJ Brown - Unrestricted free agent -The Suns can't afford him since they are not likely to be able to dump KT's contract. He has minimal offensive skills and it is hard to imagine him keeping up with the Suns pace.

Turiaf - There is no reason why the Lakers would trade him cheap and he wouldn't get enough minutes to justify what it would take to get him.

Devin Brown - Unrestricted free agent - He had a good enough year with the Hornets that he will get more than minimum - 11.6 ppg. At the same time, he's not much of a shooter at 42.0% and 35.7% for three.

Duhon - His reputation certainly exceeds his stats. He shot only 40.8% and 35.9% for three. 4 assists in 24 minutes is not that impressive.

Delonte West - One year left on rookie contract. He's got talent and probably could get minutes, but he's not an exceptional PG (only 4.4 assists in 32.2 minutes). He shot better a year ago, but averaged only 42.7% and 36.5% for three.

dodie53 · June 15th, 2007, 07:30 AM

duhon > banks

Nasser22 · June 15th, 2007, 07:35 AM

I don't feel comfortable trading away KT and replacing him with PJ or Turiaf. We won't beat the Spurs...

Muggum · June 15th, 2007, 07:44 AM

Blech. Hill's the only one I'd even consider taking.

DarenG · June 15th, 2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by azirish

Other than Hill, I think this is all irrelevant.

PJ Brown - Unrestricted free agent -The Suns can't afford him since they are not likely to be able to dump KT's contract. He has minimal offensive skills and it is hard to imagine him keeping up with the Suns pace.

I think they can move Kurt. He is not a stiff and there is always one team out there. I just don't know if PJ Brown is leap above KT?!?! I mean does Turiaf or Brown help you more on Duncan? I think unless we land a big guy in the draft you can give up that pipe dream. Which means the team needs to get more talented and deeper on the bench to beat the Spurs. Duncan will get his.

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Originally Posted by azirish

Devin Brown - Unrestricted free agent - He had a good enough year with the Hornets that he will get more than minimum - 11.6 ppg. At the same time, he's not much of a shooter at 42.0% and 35.7% for three.

I don't see how they get him cheap either but his shooting isn't a concern. They would bring in him for his defense to spell Bell. He wouldn't be in there long enough to be overly concerned about his offense.

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Originally Posted by azirish

Duhon - His reputation certainly exceeds his stats. He shot only 40.8% and 35.9% for three. 4 assists in 24 minutes is not that impressive.

Delonte West - One year left on rookie contract. He's got talent and probably could get minutes, but he's not an exceptional PG (only 4.4 assists in 32.2 minutes). He shot better a year ago, but averaged only 42.7% and 36.5% for three.

Again, were looking for someone to spell for a starter not be a starter. There stats are good enough and better then some of the stuff we have had in here as backups. I would be OK with either guy.

Rab · June 15th, 2007, 09:11 AM

Grant Hill is the only player in there that I even care about. The rest are not going to have much impact on this team that isn't already there except for Duhon maybe.

TBaslim · June 15th, 2007, 09:29 AM

A bench, a bench, a rookie or two and a bench. That is the theme at this point.

Diawsome · June 15th, 2007, 09:29 AM

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Turiaf is a hustle player, he has no jumper and post-up defense. He would never play for the Suns.

Turiaf's defense against Amare was better then pretty much anybody else in the league. In the games where he did play major minutes not only did he do a good job defensively but he also held his own on the offensive end.

In games where he played 20+ minutes he averaged 9.2 ppg, 6.1 rpg & 2.1 bpg

When I look at Turiaf I see everything people in the Suns organization liked about Joakim Noah, a hustle/energy player who can block shots, play decent defense and doesn't really have any offensive game outside of 5 feet from the basket.