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Old June 5th, 2007, 02:26 AM   #1
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Atlanta is looking at anywhere between 7 and 9 million in cap space this summer. We all know that they have problems attracting people to sign there, so perhaps they would be interested in making a trade for a veteran.

Lord knows they love swingman.

Speedy Claxton hasn't worked out there, and I know that they wouldn't mind getting out from his contract.

So,

Josh Smith (who the Suns love)
Speedy Claxton
#3

For

Shawn Marion
Atlanta's 2008 pick
#29 pick


I didn't get out a calculator, but with the cap space atlanta has it matches up pretty good.


Anyways, Josh Smith is a stud. He is going to need to get extended, but he won't be looking at max money. We get stuck with Speedy Claxton, but maybe he actually helps us a bit.


Smith would step in and almost immediately replace what we lose from Marion. Then we can use the #3 presumably for frontcourt help, but there would be a lot of options. I wouldn't be against Conley either.

This move would lop 8 million off the payroll before paying the pick. So we wind up saving 5 million after signing the number 3. We would then presumably try to get a team to take Banks' contract in exchange for the #24 pick.


Phoenix

Nash/Claxton
Bell/Barbosa
Smith/Jones
Amare/Horford(or whoever)
Thomas/Diaw


Not sure where Atlanta would stand on this, feel free to tinker if so desired.
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Old June 5th, 2007, 02:42 AM   #2
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i think atlanta will not give the #3 pick..
mabye #11?

and smith in the suns line-up will be a PF,
he's not really a SF because he doesn't shoot the ball well from the perimeter..
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Old June 5th, 2007, 02:46 AM   #3
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how about this?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...s=1~1~21~21~21

the hawks can add their #3 pick and the suns will give them their 24 and 29
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Old June 5th, 2007, 02:49 AM   #4
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i think atlanta will not give the #3 pick..
mabye #11?

and smith in the suns line-up will be a PF,
he's not really a SF because he doesn't shoot the ball well from the perimeter..

Josh Smith is 100% a power forward. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him at the 4 in Phoenix. That has to do with the coach, not the player however.
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Old June 5th, 2007, 03:17 AM   #5
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Josh Smith is 100% a power forward. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him at the 4 in Phoenix. That has to do with the coach, not the player however.
if smith is 100% a PF, he will definitely play PF for the suns
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Anyways, Josh Smith is a stud. He is going to need to get extended, but he won't be looking at max money.

Smith would step in and almost immediately replace what we lose from Marion.
Sounds good, but you sort of answered your own question why Atlanta wouldnt want to do this.

If Smith can give us similar play as Marion for less money why would Atlanta not only trade him for Marion, but also give a lotto pick?
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Old June 5th, 2007, 07:14 AM   #7
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how about this?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...s=1~1~21~21~21

the hawks can add their #3 pick and the suns will give them their 24 and 29

You're obviously kidding, but I would add Barbosa/ATL '08 #1 and keep our #24 (Splitter) and #29 (Jordan) from our end and pull the trigger in a heartbeat....

Keep in mind, I don't think that Splitter or Jordan will be there at those slots, but obviously this is a scenario that is not plausible anyways....

Nash/Jordan/Banks
Johnson/Bell
Smith/Jones
Stoudemire/Horford
Splitter/Thomas/Wright
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Old June 5th, 2007, 07:48 AM   #8
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You're obviously kidding, but I would add Barbosa/ATL '08 #1 and keep our #24 (Splitter) and #29 (Jordan) from our end and pull the trigger in a heartbeat....

Keep in mind, I don't think that Splitter or Jordan will be there at those slots, but obviously this is a scenario that is not plausible anyways....

Nash/Jordan/Banks
Johnson/Bell
Smith/Jones
Stoudemire/Horford
Splitter/Thomas/Wright
Splitter will be a bust -- if he even comes out -- and even in a best-case scenario he's nowhere near starting center material.
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Atlanta will not take Marion's contract even for free, not to mention to give us #3 in addition. Stop dreaming. They are not about to compete for anything for the next two years of Marion's contract span anyway.

If they are smart, they will take Horford or Conley at 3 and give us #11 in exchange for their own 08 pick and Banks. We could then do the Marion for Rasheed trade and pick one of the swingmen in the Youngs, Thorton, or Wright.
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Old June 5th, 2007, 09:51 AM   #10
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Splitter will be a bust -- if he even comes out -- and even in a best-case scenario he's nowhere near starting center material.
Well, thank you for your insight and your ability to speak of the future in absolutes....

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Well, thank you for your insight and your ability to speak of the future in absolutes....
I just think penciling him in as the starting center on a championship contender is entirely unrealistic. If he were anywhere near that good, he would haven't chickened out of the last several draft, and he'd be a much higher prospect this year.
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I tend to agree with Eric here. Splitter is agressive and fast, but he's just a slighty taller version of Anderson Varejao.

Doesn't mean he'll be a bust though, considering he's a late first-early second round pick.
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Atlanta will not take Marion's contract even for free, not to mention to give us #3 in addition. Stop dreaming. They are not about to compete for anything for the next two years of Marion's contract span anyway.

If they are smart, they will take Horford or Conley at 3 and give us #11 in exchange for their own 08 pick and Banks. We could then do the Marion for Rasheed trade and pick one of the swingmen in the Youngs, Thorton, or Wright.
exactly.....rebuilding teams dont give up a.) their cap space and b.) lotto picks for guys who's contracts will be expiring before they even become competative.

it might be a fair trade valuewise.....but teams arent around to dump contracts on and take their picks.
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Old June 5th, 2007, 10:24 AM   #14
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Splitter will be a bust -- if he even comes out -- and even in a best-case scenario he's nowhere near starting center material.
Splitter is in the draft this year for sure - he can't pull out because he's a 22+ year-old international player. He does, however, have a contract with his current team that he can't get out of, meaning he'll be unavailable until the season after next (08/09).
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Unless someone pays out the $500K buyout and therein lies the rub. Other than that, he's a lock in the top 10....
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