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No kidding....Whisenhunt is the reason we win this game. Whisenhunt instilled that "never give up" attitude into these players that Denny never did.
The only thing that pissed me off was the lack of tackling by our DBs. No way in hell Barber should have scored that TD in the 4th. Wrap him up!!! Grrrr...
Anyways, still hell of a win! GO CARDS!!!!
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You guys are high on excitement right now but I'm not randomly criticizing. The end result doesn't justify every move made during the game and the Card's are going to suffer at some point when the keep it close/fall behind early approach is employed against a better team.
I realize this is pissin' on the parade and I apologize for the poor timing but I was very frustrated by Whis and Haley today. I mean, how often can the Cardinals really rely on a truly dominating and stifling performance by the defense?
The default approach of run, run 3rd and long is worrisome because at some point the offense won't be able to just flip a switch and score a TD or three when it needs it. There simply was no reason to sit on their collective hands like they did in the first half. The reason Dallas was getting pressure on the offense was the same reason most teams get pressure on the Cards offense. They run the base offense that is predictable and very unproductive. I can't be the only one who noticed that once they went back to the spread offense in the 2nd half that things started to click.
I don't think Whis is above criticism in this regard and I am by no means against him. I applaud his efforts, think he's one of the best first time coaches that I've seen, really support his overall message and at this point, he's the coach of the year if I had a vote. But, his insistance on reverting to an ineffective offense and conservative approach when there is a contrasting amount of success to compare it to from the previous week worries me.
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You guys are high on excitement right now but I'm not randomly criticizing. The end result doesn't justify every move made during the game and the Card's are going to suffer at some point when the keep it close/fall behind early approach is employed against a better team.
I realize this is pissin' on the parade and I apologize for the poor timing but I was very frustrated by Whis and Haley today. I mean, how often can the Cardinals really rely on a truly dominating and stifling performance by the defense?
The default approach of run, run 3rd and long is worrisome because at some point the offense won't be able to just flip a switch and score a TD or three when it needs it. There simply was no reason to sit on their collective hands like they did in the first half. The reason Dallas was getting pressure on the offense was the same reason most teams get pressure on the Cards offense. They run the base offense that is predictable and very unproductive. I can't be the only one who noticed that once they went back to the spread offense in the 2nd half that things started to click.
I don't think Whis is above criticism in this regard and I am by no means against him. I applaud his efforts, think he's one of the best first time coaches that I've seen, really support his overall message and at this point, he's the coach of the year if I had a vote. But, his insistance on reverting to an ineffective offense and conservative approach when there is a contrasting amount of success to compare it to from the previous week worries me.
It's called gameplanning for your opponent. It was obvious when the Cards had the lead they were going to try and run the ball to keep the Dallas offense off the field. Against BUffalo,there was no big concern with a high powered offense. Once the Cards got behind, they threw the ball.
It's called gameplanning for your opponent. It was obvious when the Cards had the lead they were going to try and run the ball to keep the Dallas offense off the field. Against BUffalo,there was no big concern with a high powered offense. Once the Cards got behind, they threw the ball.
There's a big difference between long, sustaining drives and quick 3 and outs. The offense has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that they cannot run the ball and sustain drives in the conventional set. They also showed last week that they could pass the ball short as a substitute for a running game and sustain long, scoring drives with that approach. As they did in the second half vs. Dallas.
I give Whis credit for making the halftime adjustment but it was still a bad move to let off the gas after being spotted 7 points. This offense is just night and day different with the conventional vs. spread approach. It would be one thing if it was just Warner struggling with the conventional approach but the o-line, receivers, etc. all look out of sync and uncomfortable in it. I just think it was an unwise decision to risk it in such an important game.
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This doesn't mean there has to be a limit on someone's opinion or on new information. -Chris Sanders
There's a big difference between long, sustaining drives and quick 3 and outs. The offense has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that they cannot run the ball and sustain drives in the conventional set. They also showed last week that they could pass the ball short as a substitute for a running game and sustain long, scoring drives with that approach. As they did in the second half vs. Dallas.
I give Whis credit for making the halftime adjustment but it was still a bad move to let off the gas after being spotted 7 points. This offense is just night and day different with the conventional vs. spread approach. It would be one thing if it was just Warner struggling with the conventional approach but the o-line, receivers, etc. all look out of sync and uncomfortable in it. I just think it was an unwise decision to risk it in such an important game.
If we run the spread offense all game it will start to lose it's effectiveness. You have to put in different looks to keep the defense honest. If it was as simple as running the spread all day, Wiz would be doing it.
If we run the spread offense all game it will start to lose it's effectiveness. You have to put in different looks to keep the defense honest. If it was as simple as running the spread all day, Wiz would be doing it.
That's true but I still think it would be better to use it early and get a lead rather than keeping it in the back pocket until it's inevitably needed. I would concur that over-using it to the point of the league finding a way to stopping it would be bad but they have already continually stopped the base offense. I would much rather see the offense work on the running game when protecting a lead. Running until they fall behind isn't very appealling.
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This doesn't mean there has to be a limit on someone's opinion or on new information. -Chris Sanders
That's true but I still think it would be better to use it early and get a lead rather than keeping it in the back pocket until it's inevitably needed. I would concur that over-using it to the point of the league finding a way to stopping it would be bad but they have already continually stopped the base offense. I would much rather see the offense work on the running game when protecting a lead. Running until they fall behind isn't very appealling.
Yea, it couldn't hurt to open the game with the spread. In the end the base offense needs to continue to improve if we don't want to be a one trick pony.
Can't we save the nit picking for Wednesday or later.
Seemed like a good game plan to me since we won.
We should talk about Cardsloco's avatar instead.
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“That’s another thing we are trying to establish, that we will be relentless and we are going to play physical,” defensive end Antonio Smith. “If you do catch the check-downs, you’re going to have to pay for it.”
I can at least 5 plays in this game that old teams would have given up and faded away to a team like the Cowboys. I can care less if he is perfect when he gets a W against a very, very good team. Whatever he is doing, he has my support, imperfections and all.
I swear people complaining today is missing the fact that this is probably one of the top 3 wins this team has had since moving to Arizona. This feeling of beating the Cowboys who are dominant on paper makes me ticked we have a bye!!! It is like a new sports car. I want to take the darn thing out on the freeway and see what it can do. Next hurdle is winning on the road.
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No kidding....Whisenhunt is the reason we win this game. Whisenhunt instilled that "never give up" attitude into these players that Denny never did.
The only thing that pissed me off was the lack of tackling by our DBs. No way in hell Barber should have scored that TD in the 4th. Wrap him up!!! Grrrr...
Anyways, still hell of a win! GO CARDS!!!!
That was one of the "backbreaker" plays that past teams would have just given up and honestly believed they were doomed to let the win slip away.
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Yeah, he made some questionable decisions. And, you know what? I don't freaking care!!!! Every game can be second-guessed.
I think the main point to me was the first half it sure looked early like Warner was going to be a turnover machine again and I think because of that, Whiz got conservative. And I think it worked because Kurt in the 2nd half was a different player.
I think if Whiz turns Kurt loose early, we might be having another QB debate today.
MM, you need to take a chill pill. Our head coach is the main guy responsible for putting in the game plan that just defeated the Cowboys.
If it weren't for two defensive breakdowns this game would have been deemed a thorough thrashing.
there are some people who see the glass totally empty all the time....it really does not make sense to address obvious silliness...maybe those people will wake up one day and actually watch the game.
FORZA DEL PIERO! 
It's called gameplanning for your opponent. It was obvious when the Cards had the lead they were going to try and run the ball to keep the Dallas offense off the field. Against BUffalo,there was no big concern with a high powered offense. Once the Cards got behind, they threw the ball.
Every game can be second-guessed.
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