February 9th, 2012, 10:30 PM
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Which FAs should Cards go after
I would love Wes Welker or Reggie Wayne - either would help attract Manning and wouldn't cost us a draft choice. I don't think it is wise to expect to get a WR in the later rounds of the draft who could start and is better than what we have already.
We should try and get a starting #2 WR and a better starting OT to play either L or R side. Then use the draft to upgrade the rest of our OL. DeCastro would be a giant step in the right direction. As much as we need help with the OL, there is just no reason to pass this future HofFer by. Our running game would take a big shot in the arm with him and it might really motivate our current OGs to get there career going better through the competition.
We need to use all of our picks on our offenive line, a pass rusher at DE or OLB, and adding depth at other positions, ie. CB, DT, ILB.
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February 10th, 2012, 01:51 AM
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in terms of a #2 WR, Manningham is at the top of my list. I'd love Desean Jackson, but Manningham is more realistic, would be cheaper, and would be much better in the locker room (given Jackson's crap he pulled lately)
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February 10th, 2012, 03:23 AM
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February 10th, 2012, 05:16 AM
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Whomever Peyton Manning tells us to sign...
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February 10th, 2012, 06:15 AM
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Donnie Jones/Sean Weatherford
Kevin Kolb - Peton Manning/David Garrard/Byron Leftwich
Richard Marshall - Marcus Trufant/Jason Allen/Reggie Smith/Kelvin Hayden
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February 10th, 2012, 06:16 AM
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First thought that came to mind (in light of the Manning buzz) was "Reggie Wayne."
Then I heard today that both he and Welker were likely to command a $7 - 8-million 2012 salary figure.
I'd love us to pick up a slot/route-guy known for never dropping the ball, but not for that kind of bread.
Ditto a pass rushing DE/LB - only if we can afford him. Otherwise, we might be better off uncovering a potential pass rushing gem or two for far less cash midway thru the draft.
But I'm more interested in seeing who's available at both offensive tackles or even center or guard.
(Maybe the pickings are slim, but last night, I listened to some interesting give & take on SIRIUS between Pat Kirwin and some dude speaking for the Vikings. Gist of the conversation was that Minnesota would probably have to make tough decisions to renegotiate or cut 4 or 5 players they didn't want to let go. One of them was their aging Pro Bowl guard, Steve Hutchison - which made me wonder: Is this kind of conversation going on inside the war rooms of other NFL teams? And what other "tough decisions" flying beneath our radar may add to our list of potential FA's)?
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February 10th, 2012, 06:25 AM
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First thought that came to mind (in light of the Manning buzz) was "Reggie Wayne."
Then I heard today that both he and Welker were likely to command a $7 - 8-million 2012 salary figure.
I'd love us to pick up a slot/route-guy known for never dropping the ball, but not for that kind of bread.
Ditto a pass rushing DE/LB - only if we can afford him. Otherwise, we might be better off uncovering a potential pass rushing gem or two for far less cash midway thru the draft.
But I'm more interested in seeing who's available at both offensive tackles or even center or guard.
(Maybe the pickings are slim, but last night, I listened to some interesting give & take on SIRIUS between Pat Kirwin and some dude speaking for the Vikings. Gist of the conversation was that Minnesota would probably have to make tough decisions to renegotiate or cut 4 or 5 players they didn't want to let go. One of them was their aging Pro Bowl guard, Steve Hutchison - which made me wonder: Is this kind of conversation going on inside the war rooms of other NFL teams? And what other "tough decisions" flying beneath our radar may add to our list of potential FA's)?
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Read the same on the Raiders. May have to cut Seymore, Wimbley, Curry and few others. If true, how about Wimbley if he is released?
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February 10th, 2012, 06:39 AM
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Read the same on the Raiders. May have to cut Seymore, Wimbley, Curry and few others. If true, how about Wimbley if he is released?
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Wimbley or Aaron Curry.
Curry supposidely took to the 3-4 defense pretty well.
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February 10th, 2012, 06:56 AM
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A list of available FA would help
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February 10th, 2012, 07:32 AM
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February 10th, 2012, 08:03 AM
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26. Curtis Lofton LB, Atlanta Falcons: He's a plug linebacker who had a tendency to get lost in pass coverage at times. He's good against the run but with it being a passing league, is the value there? He turns 26 in June.
34. Pierre Garcon, WR, Indianapolis Colts: He caught a career-high 70 passes last season without good quarterback play. He can fly, which will make him attractive to other teams. He turns 26 in August.
37. Stephen Tulloch, MLB, Detroit Lions: On a one-year deal, he had 111 tackles and two picks for the Lions. He just turned 27, so age isn't an issue. He's a steady player.
38. Jason Jones, DT-DE, Tennessee Titans: He has flashed at times in his four seasons with the Titans, but he should be doing more. Has played both inside and outside for the Titans. He turns 26 in May, so he has time to become a really good player.
47. Jerome Simpson, WR, Cincinnati Bengals: He is a receiver who can fly. That would make him a hot commodity, but he has a legal issue hanging over his head. He just turned 26 earlier this month.
off that top 50, these would be my realistic targets.
Mario is too expensive along with a few others.
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February 10th, 2012, 08:43 AM
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23. Jared Gaither, T, San Diego Chargers: The Chargers added him late when Marcus McNeil went down and he played well down the stretch. He has ability, which he showed when he was a starter for the Ravens before back troubles slowed his career. He turns 26 in March.
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25. Anthony Spencer, OLB, Dallas Cowboys: In a league desperate for pass-rush help, he will get action on the market, even though his six-sack total was a disappointment last season. He just turned 28 in January.
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29. Ben Grubbs, G, Baltimore Ravens: He missed six games with a toe injury this season, but started 48 straight from 2008-10. He is the other guard on the Ravens line to Marshall Yanda, but he's still a good player. He turns 28 in March.
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34. Pierre Garcon, WR, Indianapolis Colts: He caught a career-high 70 passes last season without good quarterback play. He can fly, which will make him attractive to other teams. He turns 26 in August.
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37. Stephen Tulloch, MLB, Detroit Lions: On a one-year deal, he had 111 tackles and two picks for the Lions. He just turned 27, so age isn't an issue. He's a steady player.
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These are perfect fits IMO..... Unfortunately, they probably have to much name recognition for our normal free agent targets.
Combined with Decastro... I would love Grubbs and Gaither.
Upshaw, Kuechly, and Kirkpatrick would become more appealing if we got Grubbs IMO.
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February 10th, 2012, 08:43 AM
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Richard Marshall - Marcus Trufant/Jason Allen/Reggie Smith/Kelvin Hayden
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Backus is worse than Levi, please no lol
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February 10th, 2012, 08:44 AM
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How about G-Grubbs or T-Bell?
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February 10th, 2012, 09:30 AM
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I would take any of these guys but the guys in red would be ideal given their age, likely asking price and our needs. Guys like a Welker would be great but he isn't going anywhere.
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5. DeSean Jackson, WR, Philadelphia Eagles: The ability should get him a huge contract. But the attitude might cut that down some. Even so, this kid is a game-changer. Those guys don't hit the market all the time. He turns 26 in December.
7. Vincent Jackson, WR, San Diego Chargers: The Chargers want him back, but at what cost? The indication is that the team won't tag him. He turned 29 in January.
16. Marques Colston, WR, New Orleans Saints: The question with Colston is whether he would be as good in another system. I say yes, but he isn't a burner. He turns 29 in June.
49. Mario Manningham, WR, New York Giants: The Super Bowl hero is a good player, but is he a No. 2 receiver. And how much will he cost? Did the Super Bowl make the price come up? He turns 26 in May.
34. Pierre Garcon, WR, Indianapolis Colts: He caught a career-high 70 passes last season without good quarterback play. He can fly, which will make him attractive to other teams. He turns 26 in August.
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14. Cortland Finnegan, CB, Tennessee Titans: He just turned 28 this month and will be a hot commodity on the open market. It doesn't appear he's coming back to Tennessee. The Lions would seem to be a team that will make a push.
15. Carlos Rogers, CB, San Francisco 49ers: He is the player who will benefit most from signing a one-year deal. He will cash in big after a good 2011 season for the 49ers. He isn't young, turning 31 in July.
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23. Jared Gaither, T, San Diego Chargers: The Chargers added him late when Marcus McNeil went down and he played well down the stretch. He has ability, which he showed when he was a starter for the Ravens before back troubles slowed his career. He turns 26 in March.
32. Demetrius Bell, T, Buffalo Bills: After starting 16 games in 2010, he had just six starts in 2011 because of knee issues. He turns 28 in May, which means his best football is in front of him.
41. Evan Mathis, G, Philadelphia Eagles: Mathis signed a one-year deal with the Eagles and played well. That
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25. Anthony Spencer, OLB, Dallas Cowboys: In a league desperate for pass-rush help, he will get action on the market, even though his six-sack total was a disappointment last season. He just turned 28 in January.
33. D'Qwell Jackson, ILB, Cleveland Browns: After missing all of 2010 with a torn pectoral, he bounced back to start all 16 games last season and played at a Pro Bowl level. He turns 29 in September.
37. Stephen Tulloch, MLB, Detroit Lions: On a one-year deal, he had 111 tackles and two picks for the Lions. He just turned 27, so age isn't an issue. He's a steady player.
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