Dayman

Your post brings up some excellent points. Well done.

The dire QB situation around here has definitely made the O-line look worse. When Pitt runs a play that leaves a pass rusher virtually unblocked on the edge, which actually does happen from time to time, Ben fires the ball to the other side before the D can take advantage. Kolb, on the other hand, often runs into the unblocked defender for some unknown reason, which makes the play design look moronic. Skelton's infamous back-to-back sacks against the Rams are another prime example.

Still, I have to question the overall talent across the line after ignoring all three positions in the draft for so long. Who was the last Cards' O-linemen to leave the team and receive playing time somewhere else? Keydrick Vincent? Deuce can't stop eating long enough to make another team. Gandy retired once he was done here after washing out in Chicago previously. Teams aren't exactly beating down Brandon Keith's door. Reggie Wells was a bust in Philly. None of these players have very strong skill sets, with the exception of a motivated Deuce.

Someone brought up the possibility of the game passing Russ Grimm by already. I think it's an excellent observation. The days of judging O-linemen by how many regurgitated hot dogs they can eat are over. Today's defensive players require actual athletes to keep them at bay, not a bunch of ornery fat guys. Filling the line with a bunch of Russ Grimm Jrs. just doesn't get it done anymore.

THESMEL

Well I think Graves and whiz have been solid on the 1st round picks, but after that they get awful loose treading up - so we aint got a 2nd? may be a good thing -Ha Ha?

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cardpa

Something just dawned on me and that is if the Cards go DE/DL in the first round does that mean the days of CC being a Cardinal are done after the 2012 season? This team has pulled some stupid moves over the years and this would not surprise me. Draft a replacement for CC.

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Garthshort

Mitch, I go back to your thread where you talked about how good a guard Snyder was last year. And then I read Darren Urban's take on the OL. He quotes Russ Grimm who said the team prefers Snyder at OG. IMO, Levi WILL remain at LT, no question, so we do need a RT. That is why I can't see us drafting any thing but a RT at #13, with Reiff our best hope, but if he's gone and I expect that he will be, then we will pick Glenn, though I'm hoping we'll first trade down. DeCastro is a great OG but that will mean moving Snyder to RT, where he's probably not as effective, so the team will have to decide whether they want a line with a VG RG (whether it's DeCastro or Snyder) and a less than VG RT (Snyder), or (Reiff or Glenn). Of course with Reiff or Glenn, they should get better with experience.

Crazy Canuck

Nice work, Mitch.

I have no thoughts on the draft beyond round one. Feel that if DeCastro is there, he's number one on their board and they'll move Snyder over to RT. If he's off the board then Glenn, to me, is not the reach some imagine and could very well be the choice. He impressed me with his athleticism and strength at the Combine and Senior Bowl.

Opening Day O-line:

Brown, Colledge, Sendlein, Decastro, Snyder

or

Brown, Colledge, Sendlein, Snyder, Glenn

LarryStalling

Personall, I would not draft a player from U of Iowa at any position this year. Last year that team had an enormous amount of off field problems that should cast a shadow over the entire roster. So I can't see the Cards drafting an OT in the first round since they seem to like squeaky clean people for the most part. I think that the first round draft will be either wr or OLB. I lean toward the OLb that can put his hand on the ground and maybe fill out to play a 3-4 DE. In fact, I don't think that it is totally out of the question that they pick someone to play 3-4 DE with an early pick because I think they are going to have a very difficult time resigning CC and Docket is is getting a little long in the tooth and we need to get someone to groom as his replacement. A selection of Nick Perry or Mercilus would not surprise me in the least bit.

JeffGollin

No position is ever deep enough (remember what happened to us at WR last year).

D-line - especially in a 34 - is a physically demanding set of positions. Ideally we should have a 6-man rotation consisting of 6 starters - all of whom are versatile enough to cross-train at the other 2 line positions.

So, no. Drafting a talented lineman in the 1st round shouldn't bode negatively or positively for CC.

(Note - By DE/DL I'm assuming you're not referring to a DE/OLB pass rush specialist like Ingram - He'd be more suited to ROLB or WOLB in a 34).

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His brother Car is comically good though.

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Russ Smith

I agree that you can't just blame the OL without looking at the QB.

But along those same lines, everyone assumes Snyder was a terrible RT because he gave up a lot of sacks. So the 49ers drafted another RT, very high, and guess what, he gave up a lot of sacks too.

Fact is when Alex Smith feels pressure he tends to roll to his right so the guy rushing from that side will often get sacks that may have been caused by someone else flushing Smith out.

In no way am I saying Snyder is a great player or a great pass blocker but it's hard to know how bad he really is because it doesn't matter who SF puts at RT as long as Smith is the QB, they get sacked alot by guys blocked by the RT.

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kerouac9

The Huddle Report just updated their invaluable and usually accurate Top 200. Quick Cards' mini-mock:

1(13) - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
3(80) - Billy Winn, DL, Boise State
4(112) - Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
5(151) - Justin Bethel, CB, Presbyterian
6A(177) - Emmanuel Acho, ILB, Texas
6B(185) - Lamar Holmes, OT, Southern Mississippi
7(221) - Kelcie McCray, SS, Arkansas State

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Cardiac

The information that has come to me about this years draft is that the D-line is deep and talented. The other thing is that they all need developing as they are raw in technique with several needing to learn how to play with their hands better. It's common knowledge that most DL need at least 2 years before they are ready to fully join the rotation.

DD will be close to the end of contract and both he and the coaches know he needs to tag out more during games to keep him fresh.

Carter looks very promising but probably is more of a NT than DE. That leaves us with a bunch of aged vets on the DL at the back up positions.

So no I don't think it means the Cards are looking to lose CC.

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Duckjake

Every time he posts that I like to remind him that in 2005 the Cardinals drafted 5 of the Huddlereports top 75 players. Now considered the worst draft of the Denny Green era

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