Two new articles on the front page by Ed Burmila and Jo Sparkes

Skkorpion · January 3rd, 2006, 12:55 PM

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joeshmo · January 3rd, 2006, 01:04 PM

Man Ed, this is the most brutal I have ever seen you concerning McCown. You didnt hold back one bit.

MadCardDisease · January 3rd, 2006, 01:07 PM

I must say I pretty much agree with Ed's assesment of what is "right" on this team currently.

Looking forward to the what's "Wrong" segment!

spanky1 · January 3rd, 2006, 02:48 PM

Dealing with Dansby's contract now would be wise.

Rats · January 3rd, 2006, 06:23 PM

This has to be the stupidest front page article ever written. Points out the obvious about our Wr, really needed a brain to come up with this analysis and then praises the play of Orlando huff, the guy was a total stiff from the word go all season. Then you save your harshest critic for the one guy that gave it his all and even if he came up short, showed he was a quality NFL player in Josh McCown. I would expect frontpage articles at least to be constructive. I am suprised Skorp gave this the space. I had to edit this as it really pissed me off. This author represents that we should watch tape of the Qb to see the difference in play calling. I do not believe this author watched one iota of tape if he has this premise. The play calling was actually increased from the short dink and dunk that Kurt had to rely on to some deep patterns that Josh was able to throw. THey both ran basically the same kind of plays to Fitz and Boldin trying to have them make plays from the line of scrimmage because we could not run the ball. THere was no srinkage of the playbook for Josh. He was able to manage 300 yards a game passing in his starts with this so called"10%" of the playbook. I seriously doubt this author ever watched any tape of the games if he takes the premise of a smaller playbook for JM. This should be removed from the frontpage in my opinion.

conraddobler · January 3rd, 2006, 09:04 PM

I think the HOF should be reserved for players that actually get voted in.

A tad early, not that it couldn't happen but it's a long ride there.

jstadvl · January 3rd, 2006, 09:50 PM

of a few things are right on. Others are completely ignorant Ed. The difference in the playbook between the two QB's, let me help you here, oh wisened footbal guru, is the game plan for Warner is a short field passing game plan. For McCown, it's actually opened up as the longer ball is put back into the picture. So it actually gets more complicated not simplified
As for his intelligence, the guy understands the nuances of many a different sport. As I've spoken to him, personally, about the woes of the offense, always the gentleman and never disrespecting anyone, he articulates very well on the schemes, the personnel used and what may or may not be a better avenue to take.
Watching him audible at the line and having it work, time after time, should be enough to show you that his intelligence isn't as limited as you might wants us to believe. You might want to watch some of those tapes again and instead of looking for what he does wrong, look for the things he did right, that Warner can't do.
Wasn't it you writing you PhD thesis a bit back? Did you know that most students hate when a PhD teaches a class because they don't know how to teach. But, they're great at research, in their fields.Could be he just didn't like the 4or5 different teachers he's had while here. Other than Warner
Next Docket DIDNOT have a subpar year or sophomore jinx. He played hurt, again, and was used differently because of early injuries to key players. AND, if you don't think Wilson, Okeafor, and others benefitted from Dockets play, I can't help you. Only wtching the tapes again can do that.
Some others you mentioned, Brown etc. Too early to tell. Blackstock will be a monster. Like Hayes, when he gets the mental part down, he'll be hell to deal with. Hayes is another bright spot. Darling and Dansby have proved their worth.
Leckey needs to learn to put his weight, work on strength, technique into the push or he'll continue to be mediocre. Putting the right players in the correct positions would help also.
I disagree on Okeafor. I think he could have had a much more productive year than he showed. There were times he showed brilliance at playing his position and other times he looked like he was just getting pushed around.
As for Q, and Fitz, those are pretty obvious.
But alas, next year leaves us all with that nervous anxiety, expectations, and hope.
BTW did you read Green's excuse for JJ's miserable performance this year? He should show everyone the same lee-way.

D-Dogg · January 3rd, 2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rats

This has to be the stupidest front page article ever written. Points out the obvious about our Wr, really needed a brain to come up with this analysis and then praises the play of Orlando huff, the guy was a total stiff all season. Then you save your harshest critic for the one guy that gave it his all and even if he came up short, showed he was a quality NFL player in Josh McCown. I would expect frontpage articles at least to be constructive. I am suprised Skorp gave this the space.

No way would I have expected this reaction from the nails in Josh's Crucifix, AKA, Rats.

Rats · January 4th, 2006, 02:51 AM

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No way would I have expected this reaction from the nails in Josh's Crucifix, AKA, Rats.

What the hell does that mean? This was an ignorant article plain and simple taking parting shots at Josh is one thing but calling him stupid is just wrong for a front page article that represents us all. I defended Josh from guys like you that said he wouldn't be back after last year, then we resigned him. You hated every minute of that and probably the fact that he got a chance to see the field and prove you guys wrong again. Guess what boys. He will not be selling insurance in podunk Backwater Texas as you prediceted. He proved he is an NFL Qb and if the team was smart they would bring him back for another couple of years as there is no one else available that can be as good in DG system. He and Kurt are as good a 1 2 in the league and if givin a running game and a Oline they will win more games. Period. Guys that just hate on him or like to call guys like me a Josh Jocker have serious defeicencies in there knowledge of the game IMO. THey can't see the forest for the trees, count yourself as one of them.

rfayhallock · January 4th, 2006, 05:25 AM

Blaming and firing assistant coaches takes Green off the hook??
Letting Mcown go takes Green off the hook?

Was there something in the Cardinals off season training that caused so many injuries?

azbob
Dewey

JasonKGME · January 4th, 2006, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jstadvl

Watching him audible at the line and having it work, time after time, should be enough to show you that his intelligence isn't as limited as you might wants us to believe. You might want to watch some of those tapes again and instead of looking for what he does wrong, look for the things he did right, that Warner can't do.

Are you talking about the 2 audibles he made in the final minute of the game in Indy at the goal line when the play call was for a pass and he "audibled" out to a run that went no where? Those audibles that worked time after time??

jstadvl · January 4th, 2006, 06:36 AM

want to go back and forth tit for tat or just pick out what YOU THINK were his audibles? Again senseless bable from people who don't like McCown. Do you really believe he called those last two plays?You'd better think again. The coaching staff may have just had the meandering thought that "they expectr the pass, call the run, then sneak".
We'll see where he winds up and then put a little money where our mouths are.
Didn't hear anyone complkain about his audibes to Fitz, Q or the TE's this year.
What coaches are going now?

Snakester · January 4th, 2006, 07:24 AM

I always love the articles from Jo, she writes a whole new perspective on our team and the experiences of the games. Great writing Jo as always.

I thought this was a very positive article for Ed. Although I don't always agree with everything he writes, he does tell it like he sees it and doesn't sugar coat it. He's a bit harsh at times but alot of what he says is right on the money. This was an enjoyable read and I look forward to Ed's upcoming draft articles as well.

ajcardfan · January 4th, 2006, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jstadvl

Do you really believe he called those last two plays?You'd better think again.

Sorry, jstadvl. But, McCown himself in the game stories said he changed the plays. FWIW, Fitz said his decision to run on the last play and not go with the pass was the right one.

jstadvl · January 4th, 2006, 07:39 AM

I've been trying to catch up since being back and haven't seen that. My point though, isn't just the last two plays. Jasons very good at isolating certain instances when it fits him and ignoring other things that have gone on throughout the year.
It really is a moot point now. i really don't believe he'll be back here so, why keep doggin him?

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