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I pretty much agree with you CardShark and would add that the Cardinals have been playing "safe" in the last couple of games once the got a lead. Whis is a big proponent of running clock in the 2nd half and it has taken the offense out of it's rhythm a couple of times. The D has stepped up in those situations though and as nice as a blowout win would be, forcing the D to come up with these holds will make the team better in the long run.
I'd like to say it's by design but whether it's intentional or out of necessity, the D is much further along than they were at the start of the year. Two weeks in a row they have been pretty clutch when it mattered most when the offense went cold.
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If Tennessee has the run shutdown, they pass. Pass shutdown, they run. The Cardinals, shutdown the pass and it's Sunday, bloody Sunday.
Also, the media is pissed at being burned by the Cardinals for a quarter of a century
NO ONE has shut down the Cards though. The #1 pass defense (Carolina) got smoked over the air. Their Giants and their pass rush might be the only team to realistically shut down the Cards this year.
Every comment you make is a sellout to those who give the Cards no respect for what they've achieved. You are no different than any of the critics that say the Cards need to win more than they lose and when they do that, they need to beat a quality opponent.
I guess it must have been someone else that said we'd go to the NFC championship game, or someone else that said we didn't need a strong running game because our offense was successfully predicated on the passing game. I guess it's someone else who stands up for our coaching staff when everyone else is bagginf on things like defensive schemes and player's bo.neheaded mistakes.
That guy must be hijcking my account because I'm an apologist and the scourge of cardinal fans (nice one, by the way. I'm glad I'm deserving of some kind of title).
The fact is, the Cardinals DO have a lot of history to overcome before they earn the nation's respect. More than Miami who was dominant in my lifetime. More than the 49ers who can say the same. Nearly EVERY OTHER TEAM has had success in the past 40 years EXCEPT the Cardinals. If the media doesn't fall all over themselves praising the Cardinals I think it's understandable. I'll also say in what I say in almost every thread that brings up the media's "disrespect:" So What? It doesn't matter and it won't keep the Cardinals from being good.
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Past is Past! The measuring stick for THIS era of Cardinals football is the "new" stadium opening and Whiz' & staff coming on-board. Look at the #'s. A (15-11) record under coach Whiz' & staff, including (10-2) in the "nest". I could list all of the contributing factors to this; new stadium opening, mgmt. stepping up, excellent coaching, solid drafts, very talented players, a LOUD & PROUD energized fan-base...BUT it's crystal clear to me that these are the "new" Cardinals! That being said, we as fans can stubbornly hold onto the Past and shout the sky is falling every time something goes just the tinsiest bit wrong... OR we can thoroughly enjoy what we've waited for so long. It's alot like Life itself. We choose our mind-set. We can appreciate the "gift" or life or we can waste it by complaining every day. Our choice.
They are a young team and they will continue to make mistakes,
Why do people keep saying this? The Cards are a veteran team that at the beginning of the season had no rookies starting. There are more 4+ year veterans on this team than probably at any time since the start of free agency.
Fitz 5th year, Boldin 6th, Warner 11th, Gandy 8th, Wells 6th, Dansby 5th, Wilson 8th, LaBoy 5th, Okeafor 9th, Hood 6th, Rolle 4th, Robinson 12th, ASmith 4th, Dockett 5th. Latui, Pope and Watson are in their 3rd NFL season.
Hightower and DRC are the only rookies starting. LBrown and Sendlein are both 2nd year players. That's 4 guys out of the starting 22 who could be considered young by NFL standards. Only one defensive starter not in at least his 3rd NFL season.
If they make mistakes it is not because they are a young team.
And yes it irritates me that the Cards seem to forget how to play once they get a big lead, because its costing me a fortune in blood pressure medication.
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I'm with Pariah. Therefore the need for me to post less and less as the team wins more and more. I know how good this team is and can be so I don't need some media idiot to tell me what I already know. of course I started the year out craving that "respect", but then I realized that it will not ultimately determine whether or not I will enjoy this year.
As I have been telling alot of different people....just enjoy the ride. Take it all in.
And yes it irritates me that the Cards seem to forget how to play once they get a big lead, because its costing me a fortune in blood pressure medication.
It is because they try to control the clock by running, but they cant.
i'm with Pariah and Clif. Why do people take what the media say about the Cards so personally? they're not your dog. they're not your son. you've had no role in creating or raising them so why take what other people say about them personally? Wins are all that matter.
and Cardshark, you keep talking about this lac of respect this team has gotten, but even 5 games into the season, you yourself gave no respect to a Giants team which was a Super Bowl defending champ who was undefeated at the time. For you to be so up in arms about the Cards having gotten no respect while having done the above just seems weird.
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I guess it must have been someone else that said we'd go to the NFC championship game, or someone else that said we didn't need a strong running game because our offense was successfully predicated on the passing game. I guess it's someone else who stands up for our coaching staff when everyone else is bagginf on things like defensive schemes and player's bo.neheaded mistakes.
That guy must be hijcking my account because I'm an apologist and the scourge of cardinal fans (nice one, by the way. I'm glad I'm deserving of some kind of title).
The fact is, the Cardinals DO have a lot of history to overcome before they earn the nation's respect. More than Miami who was dominant in my lifetime. More than the 49ers who can say the same. Nearly EVERY OTHER TEAM has had success in the past 40 years EXCEPT the Cardinals. If the media doesn't fall all over themselves praising the Cardinals I think it's understandable. I'll also say in what I say in almost every thread that brings up the media's "disrespect:" So What? It doesn't matter and it won't keep the Cardinals from being good.
I am not questioning your support, just the fact that when Card fans get upset that THIS team doesn't get the respect that other losing teams get when they start winning, you defend it by dredging up the past. It's not the teams of the past that are playing todays games. This team has worked hard to overcome the history of the Cardinals and it's time that people recognize them. The Dolphins were 1-15 last year and the media eats them up for winning 2 games into the season, and you can understand it because Parcells is the GM. This should not be acceptable to any fan. Even perennial losers in other sports get respect once they are winning.
The Dolphins were 1-15 last year and the media eats them up for winning 2 games into the season, and you can understand it because Parcells is the GM. This should not be acceptable to any fan.
It is acceptable to me, because wins and losses are what I care about. that and I myself tend to not "respect" the Cardinals until the game is over and the Cards have eeked out another win.
i'm with Pariah and Clif. Why do people take what the media say about the Cards so personally? they're not your dog. they're not your son. you've had no role in creating or raising them so why take what other people say about them personally? Wins are all that matter.
and Cardshark, you keep talking about this lac of respect this team has gotten, but even 5 games into the season, you yourself gave no respect to a Giants team which was a Super Bowl defending champ who was undefeated at the time. For you to be so up in arms about the Cards having gotten no respect while having done the above just seems weird.
It wasn't that I didn't respect them, it was that they were playing the easiest schedule in the league for the first half of the season and everyone was ready to crown their arse again. I was saying to wait and see how they fare against winning teams. Yes they won the Superbowl last year, but that was last year. My whole point is to let this season stand on it's own merit. Other teams get that benefit, why shouldn't the Cards. No one can change the past.
Tennessee has been coming from behind or in close games all the way through. The Cardinals have been nearly blowing games and seemingly TRYING to find ways to lose.
The Cardinals ARE escaping. The Titans ARE finding a way to win. There IS a difference.
But the question is WHY the Titans have respect? They don't have a history. They don't have any glamour players (except Vince Young, who doesn't play).
And I don't think the Cardinals have been "nearly" blowing games. We absolutely dominated the Hawks yesterday. And the 49ers win was a come from behind win, just like the Titans win was.
But the question is WHY the Titans have respect? They don't have a history. They don't have any glamour players (except Vince Young, who doesn't play).
And I don't think the Cardinals have been "nearly" blowing games. We absolutely dominated the Hawks yesterday. And the 49ers win was a come from behind win, just like the Titans win was.
Titans have a history. Fisher is the longest tenured coach. McNair, George, Music City Miracle, blah blah blah.
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