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Old June 18th, 2008, 10:53 AM   #76
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Thinking about this more, I think we've been had. Mitch yanked our chains on purpose.

You did, didn't you, Mitch? Good one. Well calculated.

Bring on the season! 37 days left?

You are right. Mitch is just trying to stir up some Card talk during the deadest time of the year.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 11:03 AM   #77
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3rd. Besides. Mitch after having little source information (my hypothesis) now all of a sudden has information about not only Boldin, but Dockett too. On top of all that, it comes out on the same day?

No way this is real.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 11:17 AM   #78
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POSTED 11:35 a.m. EST, JUNE 18, 2008


EVEN WE WON'T TOUCH THIS ONE!


Despite a report suggesting that there are sources that can "outsource" our sources, we are going on record saying that the sources saying that there is an immanent trade brewing between the Cardinals and Cowboys is only a rumor and nothing more.

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BRADY DEALT TO THE CARDS?

Our sources are telling us that based upon the latest reading of their nearly infallible tea leaves, that a trade is being discussed between the Pats and the Cards involving Tom Brady and the entire Offense of the Arizona Cardinals.

More on this as the story evolves.


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Old June 18th, 2008, 11:43 AM   #79
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The Cards wouldn't trade two pro-bowlers come on fellas. I thought some of you were smarter than that.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 12:10 PM   #80
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Jeff The Shark scoops the NFL world again, with help from Mitch. Pretty soon, ESPN will have it.

I'm telling you guys, and some of you have seen throught it, Mitch just did a great job of playing on our angst while giving us something to argue about.

36 days and counting!
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Old June 18th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #81
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Really! To this day, the Steelers have been trying to find a Plaxico Buress clone to combine with Hines Ward. The Cards with Fitz and Boldin are the perfect "Pittsburgh" type tandem.
Crazy Canadian! Pitt has never had two #1 WRs. Never ever (I think...).
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Old June 18th, 2008, 12:40 PM   #82
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Crazy Canadian! Pitt has never had two #1 WRs. Never ever (I think...).

Yes they did...!!! John Stallworht and Lyn Swan.

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Old June 18th, 2008, 01:00 PM   #83
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My sources are telling me that the Cardinals have received trade offers on both WR Anquan Boldin and DE Darnell Dockett, and that the Cardinals are very close to pulling the trigger on both deals.

The Dallas Cowboys are offering WR Patrick Crayton and their 2nd round pick in 2009 for WR Anquan Boldin. The Cardinals want the Cowboys to add T James Marten to the deal and will settle for Crayton, Marten and a 3rd.

The Atlanta Falcons are offering RB Jerious Norwood and their 4th round pick for Dockett. The Cardinals want Norwood and a 3rd and will add J.J. Arrignton to get it...but are strongly considering the deal, Norwood and a 4th, as is.

Crayton is a super slippery WR who put up good numbers last year, but dropped a key pass versus the Giants that Cowboy fans are still lamenting. He scored 7 TDs last year from the following distances: 3, 4, 4, 8, 20, 37, 59.

Norwood is the blazer at RB the Cards covet...he would need to be tendered next year in his 4th year, but the Cards would have money to burn if they deal Boldin and Dockett, and Norwood would be worth it. Two years down the line he and Tim Hightower would be a prodigious "thunder and lightning" combination.
These deals may be good or bad as I just do not know. The problem I have is this a picture of our future? Do we trade away our players once they have proven to be pro bowl quality? Players of this quality are always going to command more money. Are we forever doomed to trade away outstanding players because they make to much? Sounds like the old Cardinals. This is better than just losing them for nothing. The Cowboys are already super tough and now if they get Boldin to go with there other all pro receiver they will tear up the league. Where did all our money go? Teams like the Cowboys seem to add add and add good players. Do they have a better capologist than we do?
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Old June 18th, 2008, 01:05 PM   #84
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I am sorry that I cannot reveal my sources...I was asked to refrain from doing so because one of the sources is related to a player agent (hereby unnamed).

When I heard these rumors, I too doubted the veracity of them...and, in part, I still do. But the inside specifics I heard (involving Todd Haley's input and his connection to Patrick Crayton, for example) made me think these rumors may have some merit to them.

There's another thing I haven't mentioned yet about the conversation I had...the person told me that the word is that Ken Whisenhunt is privately furious at both players (especially since the Cardinals have dealt in good faith with both players on contracts before) and honestly believes the team can win without them.

That said, I don't think the Cards are just going to trade them for trading sake...there are some puzzle pieces they are still searching for, like a speed back, a speed WR and another offensive lineman...which is why some of the names that were mentioned are intriguing.

I think Whiz understands very clearly that this year is very crucial from the standpoint that if he and his staff are going to take the Cardinals over the hump, they need to have all the players on board and fully committed. Whiz knows that if the team regresses this year as it has in past years following rare .500 seasons, it will be all the more harder to change the pattern of losing in Arizona for good.

What makes me very optimistic is how consistently competitive the Cardinals were last year, close game after close game, despite the wave of injuries the team incurred (to several key players, no less...Okeafor, Berry, Dansby, Wilson, Green, Leinart, Fitz, Q, Pope, Levi, AJ, etc.). For a first year head coach and staff to show such positives in terms of preparation, building depth and gutsy playcalling, was all the more impressive.

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Mitch. Trades are very uncommon in the NFL. If a trade happens it usually will happen around draft time. Well the Cards giving up 2 pro-bowlers in trade seems highly unlikely. Although I agree with the senerios of the trades I doubt it will happen.

Q is my favorite player, or was I should say. Dockett is servicable to me. If the Cards make the playoffs without them good for us, if not we would be even bigger laughing stocks.
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I am sorry that I cannot reveal my sources...I was asked to refrain from doing so because one of the sources is related to a player agent (hereby unnamed).

When I heard these rumors, I too doubted the veracity of them...and, in part, I still do. But the inside specifics I heard (involving Todd Haley's input and his connection to Patrick Crayton, for example) made me think these rumors may have some merit to them.

There's another thing I haven't mentioned yet about the conversation I had...the person told me that the word is that Ken Whisenhunt is privately furious at both players (especially since the Cardinals have dealt in good faith with both players on contracts before) and honestly believes the team can win without them.

That said, I don't think the Cards are just going to trade them for trading sake...there are some puzzle pieces they are still searching for, like a speed back, a speed WR and another offensive lineman...which is why some of the names that were mentioned are intriguing.

I think Whiz understands very clearly that this year is very crucial from the standpoint that if he and his staff are going to take the Cardinals over the hump, they need to have all the players on board and fully committed. Whiz knows that if the team regresses this year as it has in past years following rare .500 seasons, it will be all the more harder to change the pattern of losing in Arizona for good.

What makes me very optimistic is how consistently competitive the Cardinals were last year, close game after close game, despite the wave of injuries the team incurred (to several key players, no less...Okeafor, Berry, Dansby, Wilson, Green, Leinart, Fitz, Q, Pope, Levi, AJ, etc.). For a first year head coach and staff to show such positives in terms of preparation, building depth and gutsy playcalling, was all the more impressive.

Mitch, even if any of us doubt that these trades have any merit, I give you kudos for sticking up for your unnamed sources. It's either that, or I give you kudos for keeping up the charade.
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Jeff The Shark scoops the NFL world again, with help from Mitch. Pretty soon, ESPN will have it.

I'm telling you guys, and some of you have seen throught it, Mitch just did a great job of playing on our angst while giving us something to argue about.

36 days and counting!
What would be mint is to see Pro Football Weakly pick this story up and then for Mitch to admit it was b.s.

Anyways, I soooo hope he's wrong, but we are talking about the same team that let Larry Centers and J. Miller go after a play-off berth...

I love Quan, but health has been an issue. Dockett is a monster, but grumbling about a contract after just signing a contract is not a good sign. If it does happen, the win/loss column will tell us if it was the right decision.
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What would be mint is to see Pro Football Weakly pick this story up and then for Mitch to admit it was b.s.

Anyways, I soooo hope he's wrong, but we are talking about the same team that let Larry Centers and J. Miller go after a play-off berth...
Let me ask you, Mr. Dibbs, and everyone else...

If the Cards were offered WR Crayton and Dallas' 1st Rounder in 2009, for Boldin, would you make the trade?

If the Cards were offered RB Norwood and Atlanta's 2nd rounder in 2009 for Dockett, would you make the trade?

While I find the Dallas trade tempting because I worry that Q will get banged up again and his holdout is way out of character for him, which casts even more uncertainty as to what's going on with him...he's such a special talent, it's hard to want to part with him under any circumstances.

As for the Atlanta trade, Norwood and a 2nd, I have such faith in the depth the Cards have now amassed at LDE with a veteran starter, Bryan Robinson and two impressive rookies in Calais Campbell and Kenny Iwebema, that adding a lightning back to the offense like Norwood to compliment the thunder of James and Hightower, and adding a 2nd rounder in next year's draft (which, as poor as Falcons may be, could well be the #33 pick) would be more than enough to take the deal.

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If the Cards were offered WR Crayton and Dallas' 1st Rounder in 2009, for Boldin, would you make the trade?

If the Cards were offered RB Norwood and Atlanta's 2nd rounder in 2009 for Dockett, would you make the trade?
Yes and yes.

I would be sad, but the team would be vastly better.
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