Jersey Girl

I know a lot of you guys couldn't care less about what SI says, but I found this interesting.

This week, they had a quote from a friend of Jake's who said, "It isn't about the money now. He wants to win." regarding Jake's move to Denver. Well, thanks a whole lot. I wish it were the other way around.

Also, it said that Jake now realizes that he doesn't have to force things to happen. It took six years to realize this?

The article seemed to paint Jake as a good quarterback trapped by a totally rotten team. I guess time will tell.

I wish Jake well and hope he does well in Denver.

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Russ Smith

Jake said himself last night he chose Denver because they are ready to go to Super Bowls, he said if he does half what Elway did there he'll be a success.

The problem is for the last 3 years he has been saying I've got to stop forcing balls I have to play smarter no more bonehead plays, and then the next game he's firing into double coverage again.

I think it's going to be a very interesting year for Jake they showed on ESPN today a side by side comparison of Jake and Griese and then wondered aloud why anybody would be so eager to get rid of Griese FOR Jake?

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Krangthebrain

Not to sound like a jerk, but I hope he fails miserably. I have watched him fail miserably for years here, with a lot of it being his fault....I don't want him to be let off the hook for sucking so bad.

I can imagine all the annoying "Plummer Rules, Cardinals suck" articles, and I just hope he ends up getting Shanahan fired, and him cut after 2 years.

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Jersey Girl

I don't think you sound like a jerk, Krang. I totally see your point.

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AZ1766

I'm not usually vendictive but I'm with Krain on this one..... I hope he plays as well as he did for us........having him play better, would prove we are as bad as they say, and I just don't believe that.
Well I guess we could use the thin air arguement for him being more accurate and having more zip.....??????

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Stronso

I would be shocked, absolutely friggin' shocked, if Jake plays better in Denver. We have seen the guy for 6 yrs and know what he can do. He cannot develop the mental acumen to read defenses over night. JP spoke for years about the need to quit making boneheaded plays......and he never changed........I do not see him making a significant improvement at all (significant being a QB rating of 90+). I predicted on a NY Jets board I go to that the Broncos at best will be 9-7. I also predicted he will go for 3000 yds, 17 TDS, and 24 INTS and a rating of 75. An improvement over here? Yes, but not one you spend $40 million on.

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Lex

The amazing thing is, he was the one person on our team that always gave 100% to try and win, and he didn't bad mouth us when he left. None of you people know how lucky we were to have him here...yet.

Sandbagging is a golf term. An example of it would be complaining about how stiff your back is, and how hung over you are, ON THE WAY to the golf course, so when you SUCK on the golf course, you've already covered your excuse.

The sandbagging has already hit full stride. Just the last two days have produced these:

If he does do well in Denver:
1) It's because Shananhan is better than Mac.
2) Elway has been coaching him.
3) He finally learned he had to quit forcing balls.
4) The thin air makes his arm stronger, and more accurate.
5) He's got his money, NOW he wants to win.
6) Anyone would look good with Portis in the mix.
7) It's not Jake, it's the receivers catching all those underthrown balls that make his numbers look good.
8) Jake didn't win that playoff game, it was the Defense.

I'm sure the sandbagging will contine.
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BW52

Watch out Lex! The gang is going to be on you like stink on ****.How dare you wish him well.

PACardsFan

I'm sorry, but I refuse to wish anyone well that leaves the Cardinals under the pretense that they are NOW able to win Super Bowls. ESPN's Len P. believes that the Broncos made a HORRIBLE financial decision in signing Plummer & will PROBABLY pay big time for it over the next few years. He doesn't see a control freak like Shanahan coexisting with probably the MOST inconsistent QB in the game. Shanahan's record since Elway left is 34-31, maybe the Raiders were right when they canned him!!! He hasn't turned out to be the QB guru that everyone thinks he is. I HOPE PLUMMER SUCKS & IS SELLING LIFE INSURANCE IN 2 YRS.

Cardinal Bob

I hope he does great! I hope he makes the Pro Bowl with a fair amount of regularity! I hope he wins Super Bowls...not just one, but multiple! I hope he makes the freaking Hall of Fame!

Seriously, I do.

But I also hope we beat the sh*t out of Denver the next time we play them!

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Krangthebrain

The opposite could be asked though Lex:

What excuses will you make if Jake sucks just as badly as he did here?
1) Shanahan doesn't know how to coach.
2) Denver doesn't have good enough receivers
3) Denver's running game sucks
4) The defense always puts them in a hole
5) Jake isn't use to the weather.
6) His receivers run bad routes
7) Jake won that playoff game in Arizona, not the defense.

Lex give it up, your lover boy is gone. He will prove you right or wrong, and I expect you to admit it either way. I don't think he will flourish in Denver, and I expect that Shanahan will lose his job over it. I will admit it if he does do better, but again his weaknesses (imo) will keep him from excelling.

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“Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimum food or water, in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. He doesn’t worry about what workout to do—his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him. The True Believer doesn’t care ‘how hard it is’; he knows he either wins or he dies. He doesn’t go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the ‘Cause.’ Now, who wants to quit?”

NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates

On life after football: "I wouldn't mind being a sports commentator. Having my own segment, working for ESPN, my own talk show. Part time trainer. Part time car mechanic. Part time Sprint cell phone salesman. Part time car washman. Grocery store baggage man. Football coach. Model. Actress. Stripper. And I even have dreams of being the next crocodile hunter." - Darnell Dockett

conraddobler

I like Jake but he needs to fail this time and then he can go somewhere and win it all after finally hitting rock bottom.

I can't stand Denver, the coach or the thought of Jake turning into stud muffin QB just because he's not with us anymore.

I don't care even if he goes straight to the Super Bowl he will never convince me that he wasn't a HUGE part of the problem here.

LVCARDFREAK

I think the whole point with Plummer was his head. I could care less about arm strength and his lack of physical attributes. The one thing that was wrong was he 'just didint get it'

He didn't understand when to throw the ball away, when to take a sack, when to try to force it and when not to. Sure he has a firey spirit but that doesnt get it done behind by 21 in the 4th.

Shanahan can change a lot about Plummer-motions, strength, etc but he cant the fact that Plummer can not read defenses well and make sound judgement quickly.

I could care less about Denver, but its sad that this will be the move that the Denver fans will remember as the fall of Shanahan

Dan H

I bet Lex supported Jason Kidd when he left, too.

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Cardinal Bob

I've hated the NBA for about the last decade, and while I am aware of the 'personal problems' Kidd had out in Phoenix, I couldn't believe the Suns traded him for Marbury. Huge discrepancy in talent.

And yes, I know this belongs on the Suns board, but Dan H brought it up!

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