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Why bring up stats when you could simply rely on the amatuer kneejerk opinions of Stout?
Our defense has been just fine this year.
Ooh, aren't we an insulting Snippy McGee now? Kneejerk? Hardly. You've been aruond this board for a while, Mao, so shame on you for not recalling that I ALWAYS go hard after Pendy, because Pendy has not been good for a loooooong time, if ever. I look at how predictable our defense and how soft our defense is coached, and I dream of what an aggressive DC could do with it.
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Thank you for breaking the circle of suck, Bidwill--Stout, December 7 2008.
I still like Pendy. He runs a pretty complex defense, so I expect the team to get better.
If he's replaced in the offseason (let's be realistic--if he's replaced at all it's not going to be mid-season), then we need to find a 3-4 coordinator because that's the type of personnel we've been building for the last couple of years and likely the type of personnel that's currently being scouted. Rivera is a 4-3/4-6 guy. I can't think of a 3-4 guy out there that's going to come available next year...it'd likely be a coordinator stepping into the role (either from the cards or another 3-4 team...fortunately, there are more and more of them these days).
But, I think that the reason we'll lose Pendergast isn't because he'll be fired, he'll be released from his contract so he can take a head coaching position in 2010.
JMHO
Um, wow, massively disagree. He'll not sniff a HC job. He just isn't that good. The problem is that he was good for about 5 minutes with a little smoke-and-mirrors, but when is schtick became predictable, he suddenly failed to adjust. Sure, he brings blitzes, and if I can sit at home and say exactly what blitz is going to happen, I can damn sure guarantee that the blocking package can do so too. He doesn't call enough blitzes, and he isn't even moderately creative with them. He signals to defenses, 'here we come...RIGHT HERE...stop us if you can.' Wonder of wonders, they usually do.
To combine posts, I want to tip my cap to Russ for pointing this out already, but the fact has clearly been missed by some on this board. P is for Pendy is for Predictable.
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Thank you for breaking the circle of suck, Bidwill--Stout, December 7 2008.
Best D-coordinator we've ever had and some Cards fans want to run him out of town. Unreal.
We threw kitchen-sink blitzes at the Redskins this week and almost all of them were perfectly picked up. Face it, the Redskins have a killer pass protecting O-line.
if those blitzes didn't seemingly get picked up all the time I'd agree with you, but they do.
Pendy should have been thrown out with the rest of the DG trash two years ago. I love the offensive staff Wiz brought in and I'll be happy when he can pick his own defensive staff next year.
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if those blitzes didn't seemingly get picked up all the time I'd agree with you, but they do.
Pendy should have been thrown out with the rest of the DG trash two years ago. I love the offensive staff Wiz brought in and I'll be happy when he can pick his own defensive staff next year.
I still don't know why this guy was retained. Whiz wants a similar D that he had in Pittsburgh & once Pendergast is gone, we'll start resembling a real NFL defense.
And who did we play? Nobody. I give a damn what the 'Fins did to the Pats because the Pats aren't very good (could barely beat the juggernaut Chiefs, if you recall). So we played decent defense against bad teams. Okay, that's good. You need to be able to do that. You also need to be able to play good defense against mediocre teams. Washington is no juggernaut; they're middle-of-the-pack. If you can't even play good defense against them, you're out of luck. I'd type more here, but I need to respond elsewhere, and that will answer more.
I'm not saying we should be compared to the 85 Bears. But our field position sucked all day and we had 2 turnovers inside our own 25 yard line. It's a team game and sometimes the D has to pick up the O and somrtimes the O has to pick up the D.
The D kept us in the game and shouldn't have been counted on to stop the Skins at the end of the game. That burden should have fallen on the Offense.
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I'm not saying we should be compared to the 85 Bears. But our field position sucked all day and we had 2 turnovers inside our own 25 yard line. It's a team game and sometimes the D has to pick up the O and somrtimes the O has to pick up the D.
The D kept us in the game and shouldn't have been counted on to stop the Skins at the end of the game. That burden should have fallen on the Offense.
Agreed on the last point. As to some key stops on short fields, though...how many were the defense and how many were Washington stopping themselves? I know of one definite first down catch that was dropped, and I think there was at least one more. The big problem, though, is you can't give up a long, grinding, demoralizing drive that eats the clock. We not only gave up one of those, but two of them.
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Thank you for breaking the circle of suck, Bidwill--Stout, December 7 2008.
Agreed on the last point. As to some key stops on short fields, though...how many were the defense and how many were Washington stopping themselves? I know of one definite first down catch that was dropped, and I think there was at least one more. The big problem, though, is you can't give up a long, grinding, demoralizing drive that eats the clock. We not only gave up one of those, but two of them.
And you can't give up two TO's inside your own 25 yard line. Many games in todays NFL come down to be 1 or 2 plays better than your opponent. Sunday the Skins were better than us. If we played them again it could be the other way around.
I sure hope the next time we play these guys it's in Arizona.
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Agreed on the last point. As to some key stops on short fields, though...how many were the defense and how many were Washington stopping themselves? I know of one definite first down catch that was dropped, and I think there was at least one more. The big problem, though, is you can't give up a long, grinding, demoralizing drive that eats the clock. We not only gave up one of those, but two of them.
The problem is just that the defense is making the same mistakes they've made the last 2-3 years.
The proof is that we had this exact same discussion about the D last season.
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The problem is just that the defense is making the same mistakes they've made the last 2-3 years.
The proof is that we had this exact same discussion about the D last season.
and the season before that and before that. I was a big fan of Pendy his first year, but it's now apparent to me that without an absolute dominating pass rusher (which is what Berry was that first year), Pendy's just SOL on scheming his way out of a paper bag.
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It's just a little early to be on him et this season, IMO. The stats are the stats; he can't help who he's played on the schedule.
What will it take to convert some of you "haters?" (I say that without malice) Top half defense? Top 10?
I think it's a given he probably won't be replaced mid-season, so let's see where we net out.
Skipping ahead, If he's not satisfactory, who would you like to see brought in (realistically: let's not hear the Dick Lebeau or Jim Johnson responses)?
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After just 3 games I notice we have a better defense than last year. Thats all we need. If our defense was as good last year, we would have went to the playoffs. But, this is a make or break year for the defense as a whole. Many one year contract players with a DC with a short leash.
It's just a little early to be on him et this season, IMO.
I just see the same problems we've had for years... biting bad on misdirection, blitz packages that are seemingly always picked up, poor tackling and the inability to get consistent pressure on the QB. Is it early in the season? Sure, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't see progress in those areas.
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The stats are the stats; he can't help who he's played on the schedule.
What will it take to convert some of you "haters?" (I say that without malice) Top half defense? Top 10?
with the amount of depth, size and speed we supposedly have, yeah, I would think a top 10 defense would shut all of us up, or a D that didn't continually bite on misdirection, get their blitzes picked up ad naseum, etc. etc.
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I think it's a given he probably won't be replaced mid-season, so let's see where we net out.
Skipping ahead, If he's not satisfactory, who would you like to see brought in (realistically: let's not hear the Dick Lebeau or Jim Johnson responses)?
don't know.
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Man,, for the last 2 years or so, it's been the same old story... People ranting about a player or a coach, or the defense or the offense - only to have others chime in with, "well, our pass defense hasn't let up a plpay over 40 yards thus far", or some other rationale to argue away the reality...
Look, for so many reasons, this team continues to lose and play poorly on the road... 15 & 51 since 2000 on the road... I don't care where our defense is ranked. Couldn't care any less about how many plays we keep under 40 yards... It's all about the W, period... And for reasons that continue to haunt this team, road W's are as difficult to come by as a winning Lotto ticket... It's beyond pathetic...
And - while I'm ranting... I have ZERO confidence that this team will go into the Meadowlands and come out with a W. In fact, I think the chances are pretty damm good that the Jets and Favre bounce back from a spanking on Monday night...
If we can't get pressure on Favre - he will slice up our defense like a meat butcher from The Bronx. It could get very, very ugly...
I just see the same problems we've had for years..
Yet, at this point in the seaoson, the defense overall is performing very well. Yes, there are isolated incidents of the same old problems, but the stats say they're a better defense.
You can say we haven't played anyone, but even that is too early to say. SF seems to be playing better than expected, miami just beat last years' regular season's undefeated team and outside of a stinker to the champions the Skins look to be pretty good. Your gut tells you those teams aren't that impressive, but their performance says otherwise (so far).
Look, all I'm saying is that it's something for Whiz/the Bidwills to keep their eye on--but so far, the defense has done a pretty good job stopping the opponents put in front of them. Have they been perfect? No. But they have done a good job.
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