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Duckjake

Because it was and pads do make a difference. Why do you think the speed guys wear light shoulder pads and some play without knee pads?

There have been many guys who ran fast and jumped high at the combine but couldn't carry that athleticism on to the football field.

So PP21 running fast and jumping high at the combine doesn't make it unreasonable to wonder why PP21 hasn't looked more athletic on the football field.

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Russ Smith

See that makes no sense you just got through saying nobody has questioned Peterson's athleticism and then you say, " There have been many guys who ran fast and jumped high at the combine but couldn't carry that athleticism on to the football field. "

And you wonder why I'm missing the distinction in your comments, because there is none. You just said it again, many people don't carry that athleticism onto the football field which means you are implying Peterson is one of those many people. If you're not questioning his athletic ability then what ARE you doing?

I won't argue great athletes don't always become great football players, I read about Heyward-Bey everyday in my local paper for example, but you didn't say player you said athleticism.

I don't recall a lot of guys being the best athlete at the combine but failing to be athletic on the football field. there are guys who look better at the combine than they turn out to be, workout warriors, but most of those guys were not great players in college either, Peterson was. I don't think he's a steroid guy and I know he's not a ran on a fast track and did speed training to fool people guy(Antrell Rolle) because he did it at the combine and he did weighing about 15 pounds more than any other CB there.

his problem is not athletic ability, it's he's a rookie with no OTAs and an abbreviated camp.

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john h

Hopefully he will work out. I have always thought that a DB was one of the most difficult to assess when drafting. We have struck out at that position with high draft picks as much as at any position. You often see guys from small schools make it in the pros at DB. Guys you have never heard of. The performance of a DB in college has a lot to do with the team he is playing for. You can look at a QBs arm strength, percent of completions, interceptions, etc but with a DB it is largely watching him on film and how high he can jump and fast he can run. Occasionally there will be a Deion Sander come along who clerarly is a lock to make it. Only occasionally.

Catfish

You are spot on Russ-----I was ecstatic when he put that burst on, (back to the right and upfield). I hollered at my son to look, he had his nose in his laptop at the time. I haven't seen a burst like that from a Cardinal player in a long, long time.

Duckjake

So you admit you are putting words in my mouth.

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Mainstreet

I mentioned it on another thread but I do not recall any response. I think Peterson could make the transition to WR much like Breaston. Except Peterson has the potential to be much better. I know it is not going to happen now with the Cardinals need in the secondary but it might be something the Cardinals look for down the road as a top WR that can get deep.

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Denny Green Fan

Hey it took half the season last year for Devin Mcourty and Hayden to get the hang of it.


I am not going to panic unless Peterson gets lit up by Cam Newton in week one

Russ Smith

I'm cutting and pasting things you posted and yet you are insisting you're not questioning his athletic ability.

It makes no sense, if your point is many great athletes are not great players I agree, but you specifically said athleticism didn't carry on to the field, not performance, athleticism.

If you're not suggesting Peterson might be one of those guys then why bring it up twice now in a thread about him?

I can't read your mind I can only read what you actually write.

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Bert

I think he looks like a rookie who didn't get to have any OTA's and has had like 8 professional practices.

He finished his season at LSU, then didn't play real football for almost 6 months, now he's going against the best in the world.

Like PA said, he has 0 confidence right now, his head is spinning every wich way on every play.

I disagree on seeing nothing though, I've seen him be very athletic on a couple of occasions and up at camp he's made several freakish plays.

I can see your initial point, BUT the piling on in this thread is making a mountain over a very small sample size in preseason.

Reps = Confidence and once that happens he will quit worrying/thinking and start using his natural abilities. Just IMHO

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I almost convinced at some point in this season Wiz will put him on O at WR

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Krangthebrain

It's freaking obvious.

Peterson is thinking too much. As I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, DRC looked worse than Peterson does right now at the same points in their career.

Give him time; that punt return in the first game showed just how athletic he is. IMO that was most athletic, explosive play I've seen from a Cardinals player this preseason besides Fitz's ridiculous catch against the Packers.

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AsUpRoDiGy

Based on his Wonderlic scores, he's not the smartest, so I would have to agree with you, he's trying to think too much and not make mistakes. At the same time, missing OTA's and countless film sessions, theres a steep learning curve and it takes a while to adjust. He has all the athletic ability in the world, and you dont have to be smart to play football, so I think he'll excel halfway through the season.

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Cardiac

The attached article is about Schofield but it relates to what several have posted. PP21 is thinking which takes away some of his athleticism.

I don't agree with Bert about the lack of confidence. ADub has stated that the kid has an incredible amount of confidence. Now maybe that was then and this is now and he might not be as confident but to me it's the thinking bit.


http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-...7-9c1bf9cff306

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PJ1

Based on those scores thinking can only hurt him.