February 17th, 2012, 07:19 AM
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February 17th, 2012, 07:44 AM
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In general, I'll be looking for "pleasant surprises" (i.e. the "possession receiver" who runs a 4.4 or a "lunch pail" MLB who runs a 4.65 or a "SS who projects as OLB" who runs a 4.5 and has a 39-inch VJ. Or the the "slightly light and slowish DE" who runs a 4.55 forty and shows unexpected cover skills in position-drills.
Specific to the Cards (I'll want to check out the Top 20 BPA's to see if there are 13 prospects who are athletically explosive enough to be considered true "game breakers."
In terms of specific players who intrigue me from a Cardinals'-perspective: Pead, K Wright, Blackmon, Sanu, Toon, Reiff, Kalil, Martin, J Brown, M Adams, DeCastro, Konz, Fleener, Poe, Ingram, Upshaw, Winn, Kuechli, Hightower, K Robinson, Carder, Clairborne, Jenkins, Dennard, Bentley.
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February 17th, 2012, 08:10 AM
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Acho, Emmnuel - ILB
Blackmon, Justin - WR
Burfict, Vontaze - ILB
Claiborne, Morris - CB
Cole, Audie - ILB
Curry, Vincet - DE/OLB
DeCastro, David - OG
Dennard, Alfonzo - CB
Fleming, Darius - DE/OLB
Floyd, Micheal - WR
Galippo, Chris - ILB
Griffith, Robert - QB
Hightower, Dont'a - ILB
Ihenacho, Duke - S
Iloka, George - S
Ingram, Melvin - DE/OLB
Jeffery, Ashlon - WR
Jenkins, Janoris - CB
Kalil, Matt - OT
Kirkpatrick, Dre - CB
Kuechly, Luke - ILB
Luck, Andrew - QB
Martin, Jonathan - OT
Massaquoi, Jonathan - DE/OLB
Mercilus, Whitney - DE/OLB
Minifield, Chase - CB
Oglesby, Joshua - OT
Perry, Nick - DE/OLB
Potter, Nate - OT
Reiff, Riley - OT
Sanders, Zerbrie - OT
Steeter, Tommy - WR
Toon, Nick - WR
Upshaw, Courtney - OLB
Washington, Brandon - OT/OG
Wright, Brandon - WR
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February 17th, 2012, 08:20 AM
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Will be looking at the offensive line guys especially the OT's.
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February 17th, 2012, 10:26 AM
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Sigh. I gave up NFLN a couple years ago for financial reasons (and because it was only worth having for about a month out of the year...), but the two reasons that I loved having it for however long I did was the Senior Bowl Workout week and the NFL Combine coverage.
Guys I'd love to find out more about are TheHuddleReports "values" (where their scout's grade is way higher than their predicted draft position):
Nate Potter (OT, Boise State)
Mitchell Schwartz (OT, Cal -- I hope that Russ Smith will start sponsoring this guy and telling us more about him)
Levy Adcock (OT, OK State--at 6'6", 332 might be the guy behind Mike Adams as most likely to replace Levi Brown if it comes to that, plus totally sweet hair)
George Iloka (DB/S, Boise State)
Aside: Man, this looks like a deep draft for teams looking to build depth at the defensive line, especially 3-4 teams. If we're going to find a replacement for Calais Campbell, we'll trade down and take one of the many 3-4 DE prospects, or surprise/piss off the board by drafting one with our third-rounder.
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February 17th, 2012, 04:00 PM
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Aside: Man, this looks like a deep draft for teams looking to build depth at the defensive line, especially 3-4 teams. If we're going to find a replacement for Calais Campbell, we'll trade down and take one of the many 3-4 DE prospects, or surprise/piss off the board by drafting one with our third-rounder.
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If there was a Ngata or Suh type dominator...I think we need one of those (I'm still a bit undersold on Dan Williams or his backups (Carter or Eason).
Are there any Ngata types this year? What about Poe?
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February 17th, 2012, 10:45 PM
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Levy Adcock (OT, OK State--at 6'6", 332 might be the guy behind Mike Adams as most likely to replace Levi Brown if it comes to that, plus totally sweet hair)
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This guy keeps coming up as having solid potential. Do you think playing in the Arena League, er... I mean Big 12, has any detrimental impact on what he might be able to do in the NFL?
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February 18th, 2012, 05:38 AM
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I really like what I have seen so far from DeCastro, Isaiah Pead and Juron Criner.
Pead has excellent vision and ability to make the first defender miss, he is a very elusive runner, and not a dancer like most of these undersized RB's are. He is good at keeping the north-south vision at LOS and when he is on the second level, he has good determination and vision to select the lanes, and he is patient, he can see them develop. He can turn laterally and make people miss once he is at the second level. Gets up the field in a hurry after the cut. He would fit in a Peyton Manning zone read offense. He is physical for his size.
DeCastro is going to be a pro bowl Guard, he has everything from pass blocking to mauling run blocking, he is not too big he is quick and can pull, and fits the zone run blocking as well as the power blocking scheme.
Juron Criner has impressive body control and hands. He has the size but is not too big and is still quick enough to get some separation. I see him as an excellent receiver at the next level. He is a mismatch in both terms of the size, speed and ability to catch when not separated from the defender. A great QB could make this guy very hard to defend.
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February 19th, 2012, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Early
I really like what I have seen so far from DeCastro, Isaiah Pead and Juron Criner.
Pead has excellent vision and ability to make the first defender miss, he is a very elusive runner, and not a dancer like most of these undersized RB's are. He is good at keeping the north-south vision at LOS and when he is on the second level, he has good determination and vision to select the lanes, and he is patient, he can see them develop. He can turn laterally and make people miss once he is at the second level. Gets up the field in a hurry after the cut. He would fit in a Peyton Manning zone read offense. He is physical for his size.
DeCastro is going to be a pro bowl Guard, he has everything from pass blocking to mauling run blocking, he is not too big he is quick and can pull, and fits the zone run blocking as well as the power blocking scheme.
Juron Criner has impressive body control and hands. He has the size but is not too big and is still quick enough to get some separation. I see him as an excellent receiver at the next level. He is a mismatch in both terms of the size, speed and ability to catch when not separated from the defender. A great QB could make this guy very hard to defend.
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Totally agree on all three, Early.
Here are the names that I am currently watching tape of and am most curious about :
LB:
Acho, Emmanuel, Texas
Branch, Andre, Clemson
Burris, Miles, San Diego St. (been loving the tapes I've seen of him).
Coples, Quinton, North Carolina
Crawford, Jack, Penn St.
Curry, Vincent, Marshall
Ingram, Melvin, South Carolina
Irvin, Bruce, West Virginia
Johnson, Cam, Virginia
Keuchly, Luke, Boston College
Lewis, Ronnell, Oklahoma
Lindsay, Brandon, Pittsburgh
McLellin, Shea, Boise St.
Mercilus, Whitney, Illinois
Perry, Nick, USC
Upshaw, Courtney, Alabama
Vernon, Olivier, Miami FL
Wagner, Bobby, Utah St.
WR
Adams, Joe, Arkansas
Criner, Juron, Arizona
Floyd, Michael, Notre Dame
Moore, Kashif, Connecticut
Owusu, Chris, Stanford
Quick, Brian, Appalachian St.
Randall, Reuben, LSU
Rodgers, James, Oregon St.
Wright, Kendall, Baylor
OL
Adams, Mike, Ohio St.
Brewster, Michael, Ohio St.
Brown, James, Troy
Compton, Tom, South Dakota
Datko, Andrew, Florida St.
DeCastro, David, Stanford
Glenn, Cordy, Georgia
Jones, Michael, Nebraska
Kelemete, Senio, Washington
Miller, Ryan, Colorado
Mosley, Brandon, Auburn
Reiff, Riley, Iowa
Reynolds, Matt, BYU
Schwartz, Mitchell, California
Washington, Brandon, Miami
Wynn, Desmond, Rutgers
Zeitler, Kevin, Wisconsin
Zusevics, Markus, Iowa
DB
Blanton, R.J., Notre Dame
Bolden, Omar, Arizona St.
Claiborne, Morris, LSU
Guy, Winston, Kentucky
Harris, Cliff, Oregon
Hayward, Casey, Vanderbilt
Hosley, Jayron, Virginia Tech
Howell, Delano, Stanford
Lynn, D'Anton, Penn St.
Powell, Chaz, Penn St.
Prater, Shawn, Iowa
Robinson, Josh, Central Florida
Robinson, Trenton, Michigan St.
Taylor, Brandon, LSU
Wade, Trevin, Arizona
RB
James, Lamichael, Oregon
Pead, Isaiah, Cincinnati
Pierce, Bernard, Temple
Poole, Tauren, Tennessee
Scott, Darrell, South Florida
Turbin, Robert, Utah St.
Wilson, David, Virginia Tech
QB
Moore, Kellen, Boise St. (I know the arm questions---but his smarts and timing are superb).
Please add players I missed---and please let us know any thoughts you have on any of these prospects.
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February 19th, 2012, 05:12 AM
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The most intriguing guy to me is Michael Brockers. I think he is going to be an absolute monster and, if he's there, will be BPA at 13.
Here's a write up on him from National Football Post:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...-Brockers.html
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February 19th, 2012, 05:21 AM
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Totally agree on all three, Early.
Here are the names that I am currently watching tape of and am most curious about:
LB:
Acho, Emmanuel, Texas
Branch, Andre, Clemson
Burris, Miles, San Diego St. (been loving the tapes I've seen of him).
Coples, Quinton, North Carolina
Crawford, Jack, Penn St.
Curry, Vincent, Marshall
Ingram, Melvin, South Carolina
Irvin, Bruce, West Virginia
Johnson, Cam, Virginia
Keuchly, Luke, Boston College
Lewis, Ronnell, Oklahoma
Lindsay, Brandon, Pittsburgh
McLellin, Shea, Boise St.
Mercilus, Whitney, Illinois
Perry, Nick, USC
Upshaw, Courtney, Alabama
Vernon, Olivier, Miami FL
Wagner, Bobby, Utah St.
WR
Adams, Joe, Arkansas
Criner, Juron, Arizona
Floyd, Michael, Notre Dame
Moore, Kashif, Connecticut
Owusu, Chris, Stanford
Quick, Brian, Appalachian St.
Randall, Reuben, LSU
Rodgers, James, Oregon St.
Wright, Kendall, Baylor
OL
Adams, Mike, Ohio St.
Brewster, Michael, Ohio St.
Brown, James, Troy
Compton, Tom, South Dakota
Datko, Andrew, Florida St.
DeCastro, David, Stanford
Glenn, Cordy, Georgia
Jones, Michael, Nebraska
Kelemete, Senio, Washington
Miller, Ryan, Colorado
Mosley, Brandon, Auburn
Reiff, Riley, Iowa
Reynolds, Matt, BYU
Schwartz, Mitchell, California
Washington, Brandon, Miami
Wynn, Desmond, Rutgers
Zeitler, Kevin, Wisconsin
Zusevics, Markus, Iowa
DB
Blanton, R.J., Notre Dame
Bolden, Omar, Arizona St.
Claiborne, Morris, LSU
Guy, Winston, Kentucky
Harris, Cliff, Oregon
Hayward, Casey, Vanderbilt
Hosley, Jayron, Virginia Tech
Howell, Delano, Stanford
Lynn, D'Anton, Penn St.
Powell, Chaz, Penn St.
Prater, Shawn, Iowa
Robinson, Josh, Central Florida
Robinson, Trenton, Michigan St.
Taylor, Brandon, LSU
Wade, Trevin, Arizona
RB
James, Lamichael, Oregon
Pead, Isaiah, Cincinnati
Pierce, Bernard, Temple
Poole, Tauren, Tennessee
Scott, Darrell, South Florida
Turbin, Robert, Utah St.
Wilson, David, Virginia Tech
QB
Moore, Kellen, Boise St. (I know the arm questions---but his smarts and timing are superb).
Please add players I missed---and please let us know any thoughts you have on any of these prospects.
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Mitch,
Watching tape on all these guys........you'll be cross-eyed before to long.
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February 21st, 2012, 01:38 PM
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Sigh. I gave up NFLN a couple years ago for financial reasons (and because it was only worth having for about a month out of the year...), but the two reasons that I loved having it for however long I did was the Senior Bowl Workout week and the NFL Combine coverage.
Guys I'd love to find out more about are TheHuddleReports "values" (where their scout's grade is way higher than their predicted draft position):
Nate Potter (OT, Boise State)
Mitchell Schwartz (OT, Cal -- I hope that Russ Smith will start sponsoring this guy and telling us more about him)
Levy Adcock (OT, OK State--at 6'6", 332 might be the guy behind Mike Adams as most likely to replace Levi Brown if it comes to that, plus totally sweet hair)
George Iloka (DB/S, Boise State)
Aside: Man, this looks like a deep draft for teams looking to build depth at the defensive line, especially 3-4 teams. If we're going to find a replacement for Calais Campbell, we'll trade down and take one of the many 3-4 DE prospects, or surprise/piss off the board by drafting one with our third-rounder.
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Levy Adcock is a guy that I am really interested in. He has a ton of experience pass blocking, good size, and is almost a lock for a RT fit. I am begining to think that he might be able to hold his own at LT as well, but that will remain to be seen. (4th or 5th round would be a steal for this guy)
George Iloka looked awesome at the Senior Bowl (practices) and might be a legitimate 2nd rounder at this point from what scouts are reporting. Great size, good instincts, and fast enough. I would love him in the 3rd round if we can'y manage out offensive line needs in FA.
Mitchell Schwartz is a guy that I heard a bit of buss about, but haven't seen much of. Sounds like he could be a 3rd round possibility, but I haven't anything.
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February 21st, 2012, 01:50 PM
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No one ever mentions PHILIP BLAKE (right guard) Baylor who stoned everyone at the Senior Bowl. And Tank Carder the linebacker from TCU.
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Here is my list of less then obvious names...
(non first rounders)
Emmanuel Acho-ILB-Texas
Kelvin Beachum-OG/OT-SMU
Brandon Boykin-CB-Georgia
Ryan Broyles-WR-Oklahoma
Vontaze Burfict-ILB/OLB-Arizona St.
Tyrone Crawford-DE-Boise St.
Andrew Datko-OT-Florida St.
Hebron Fangupo-DT-BYU
Nick Foles-QB-Arizona
Najee Goode-ILB-West Virginia
Cliff Harris-CB-Oregon
Casey Hayward-CB-Vandy
George Iloka-S-Boise St.
LaMichael James-RB-Oregon
AJ Jenkins-WR-Illinois
Jonathan Massaquoi-DE-Troy
Bobbie Massie-OT-Ole Miss
Shea McClellin-DE/OLB-Boise St
Nate Potter-OT-Boise St
Chris Rainey-WR/RB-Florida
James Rodgers-WR-Oregon St
Mitchell Schwartz-OT-Cal
Amini Silatolu-OG/OT-Midwestern St
Nick Toon-WR-Wisconsin'
Bobby Wagner-ILB-Utah St
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February 21st, 2012, 03:35 PM
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Levy Adcock is a guy that I am really interested in. He has a ton of experience pass blocking, good size, and is almost a lock for a RT fit. I am begining to think that he might be able to hold his own at LT as well, but that will remain to be seen. (4th or 5th round would be a steal for this guy)
George Iloka looked awesome at the Senior Bowl (practices) and might be a legitimate 2nd rounder at this point from what scouts are reporting. Great size, good instincts, and fast enough. I would love him in the 3rd round if we can'y manage out offensive line needs in FA.
Mitchell Schwartz is a guy that I heard a bit of buss about, but haven't seen much of. Sounds like he could be a 3rd round possibility, but I haven't anything.
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I don't think Adcock lasts past the 3rd. There's a big red arrow pointing UP next to his name!
Dang. Somebody call Adcock and tell him to get his resume out to top High School football programs because I just ruined his NFL career. :-(
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