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Old September 27th, 2003, 03:04 PM   #1
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NEXT YEAR cant miss pick


I was thinking if we make some noise about this guy early and often enough maybe someone in the cardinals organization will hear and talk themselves into this.

I still believe Jerome McDougle was the best pick the Cardinals couldve done with the original pick they had. He will pan out barring any "ANDRE" injuries a stud on the Phillly line.

2004 Cardinals pick Micheal Clayton Wr/DB/Special Team player this guy has been getting no play out west and finally today ESPN did a sniplet on him.


Anquan was the steal Clayton will give the Cardinals 2 electric weapons. He is FAR more legit to play on bothsides of the ball when comparing Deion and Champ to him.

My Cardinal faithful make some noise when the time comes
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Old September 27th, 2003, 04:38 PM   #2
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Sorry, and no offense, but if we use our 1st rounder on a WR I'll scream, break something big and then kill myself. lol. We Already have Boldin and Johnson. They are our WR's of the future. If we use a 1st on a WR in next years draft, it means we wasted a 1st rounder. I'm really really love to see us draft a CB with our 1st.
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Old September 27th, 2003, 04:45 PM   #3
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If we're gonna spend a first on a WR I would want Roy Williams or Rashaun Woods. Clayton I think will go in the second round. But, who knows.
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Old September 27th, 2003, 04:53 PM   #4
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Old September 27th, 2003, 05:29 PM   #5
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The only thing we should be drafting in the first round is either a defensive tackle or a defensive end who help with the pass rush.
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Old September 27th, 2003, 05:33 PM   #6
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The only thing we should be drafting in the first round is either a defensive tackle or a defensive end who help with the pass rush.
We can't just keep drafting D-lineman, and hoping that they will be all world as rookies and immediatly improve our pass rush. At some point we need to sign some PROVEN veterens through FA. That is our best chance to improve our pass rush. Plus, we need some leadership on that young d-line, and i'm not talking Russell Davis either.
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Old September 27th, 2003, 05:46 PM   #7
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We can't just keep drafting D-lineman, and hoping that they will be all world as rookies and immediatly improve our pass rush. At some point we need to sign some PROVEN veterens through FA. That is our best chance to improve our pass rush. Plus, we need some leadership on that young d-line, and i'm not talking Russell Davis either.
like that'll ever happen. Bidwill sucks everyone knows it. It seems like graves is trying to change it but i don't think that he will ever get enough money to put a winning team out to play

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Old September 27th, 2003, 06:15 PM   #8
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like that'll ever happen. Bidwell sucks everyone knows it. It seems like graves is trying to change it but i don't think that he will ever get enough money to put a winning team out to play

Good first impression, new guy. I've got my eye on you.

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anyone else smell that? I think it smells like Campbells soup, Clam Chowder.
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like that'll ever happen. Bidwell sucks everyone knows it. It seems like graves is trying to change it but i don't think that he will ever get enough money to put a winning team out to play

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Old September 27th, 2003, 06:58 PM   #10
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This is assuming that we don't have a shot at Vince Wilfork from Miami...

Take advantage of what McKinnon has to teach while we still have him and build a menace MLB.
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Old September 27th, 2003, 07:03 PM   #11
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like that'll ever happen. Bidwell sucks everyone knows it. It seems like graves is trying to change it but i don't think that he will ever get enough money to put a winning team out to play
Here's another one who just fell off of the turnip truck. The name is Bidwill and it's spelled B I D W I L L. If you're gonna skewer someone, you should at least have the decency to spell their name correctly.
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Old September 27th, 2003, 07:31 PM   #12
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Ok
my point was missed ( now im going deep)

Point was playmakers make a team POTENTIALLY special.

PLAYMAKERS increase your chances of winning as long as there is not noticable weaknesses somewhere on your team.

Teams with multiple Playmakers

AFC
Buffalo= 3 Drew Bledsoe, Takeo Spikes and Antoine Winfield
Pittsburgh = 3 Hines Ward, Plaxico Burress and Joey Porter
with 2 =
Kansas City= Priest Holmes and Dante Hall
Indy=Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning
Notables= Sam Cowart, Ray Lewis, Ricky Williams,


NFC
Tampa Bay 3= Derrick Brooks, Rhonde Barber, Warren Sapp
Phileadelphia 3= Troy Vincent, Dawkins and McNabb
Minnesota 2 = Daunte Culpepper and Randy Moss
Seattle 2 = Shawn Alexander and Chad Brown
San Francisco 2 = Jeff Garcia and Terrell Owens
Chicago 2 = Mike Brown and Brian Urlacher
NY Giants2= Micheal Strahan, and Dhani Jones



at one time these were playmakerssome through a career some for a couple years)(some have lost it either by age or injury!)
Brett Favre, Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Bill Romanowski,
Junior Seau, Lawyer Milloy, Rodney Harrison, Joey Galloway, Kordell Stewart, Joe Johnson, Mark Fields, Shannon Sharpe, Bruce Smith, Sammy Knight theres a few more.

Rookies to watch:
Anquan Boldin, Terrell Suggs(too bad we didnt draft him), Jerome McDougal(ditto), Terrence Newman, and Andre Johnson


Az Cardinals = 0
David Boston was the closest over the last few years
Aeneas Williams, Tim McDonald, Ken HArvey,
Green and JTsmith but not in AZ Cardinal uniforms.

All of this is always arguable but these guys rated out by play as being perfect in their "system"
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Old September 27th, 2003, 07:49 PM   #13
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Ok
my point was missed ( now im going deep)

Point was playmakers make a team POTENTIALLY special.

PLAYMAKERS increase your chances of winning as long as there is not noticable weaknesses somewhere on your team.

Teams with multiple Playmakers

AFC
Buffalo= 3 Drew Bledsoe, Takeo Spikes and Antoine Winfield
Pittsburgh = 3 Hines Ward, Plaxico Burress and Joey Porter
with 2 =
Kansas City= Priest Holmes and Dante Hall
Indy=Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning
Notables= Sam Cowart, Ray Lewis, Ricky Williams,


NFC
Tampa Bay 3= Derrick Brooks, Rhonde Barber, Warren Sapp
Phileadelphia 3= Troy Vincent, Dawkins and McNabb
Minnesota 2 = Daunte Culpepper and Randy Moss
Seattle 2 = Shawn Alexander and Chad Brown
San Francisco 2 = Jeff Garcia and Terrell Owens
Chicago 2 = Mike Brown and Brian Urlacher
NY Giants2= Micheal Strahan, and Dhani Jones



at one time these were playmakerssome through a career some for a couple years)(some have lost it either by age or injury!)
Brett Favre, Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Bill Romanowski,
Junior Seau, Lawyer Milloy, Rodney Harrison, Joey Galloway, Kordell Stewart, Joe Johnson, Mark Fields, Shannon Sharpe, Bruce Smith, Sammy Knight theres a few more.

Rookies to watch:
Anquan Boldin, Terrell Suggs(too bad we didnt draft him), Jerome McDougal(ditto), Terrence Newman, and Andre Johnson


Az Cardinals = 0
David Boston was the closest over the last few years
Aeneas Williams, Tim McDonald, Ken HArvey,
Green and JTsmith but not in AZ Cardinal uniforms.

All of this is always arguable but these guys rated out by play as being perfect in their "system"

What the hell does this have to do with the original topic? You're an idiot, rook! In the future (if you're still around) try to keep your posts in threads that they belong.

BTW, you left out MOULDS as a playmaker for Buff. I didn't even read anything after that, because it was obvious that you have no idea what the hell you were talking about.
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Old September 27th, 2003, 07:53 PM   #14
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Az Cardinals = 0
David Boston was the closest over the last few years
Aeneas Williams, Tim McDonald, Ken HArvey,
Green and JTsmith but not in AZ Cardinal uniforms.

All of this is always arguable but these guys rated out by play as being perfect in their "system"
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Old September 27th, 2003, 08:15 PM   #15
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obnoxious and condescending.

The guy has a player he likes and wants him to be a Card. Is that so hard to understand?

Are you going to give me crap too for having under 50 posts even if I have been around here for a year longer then you have? You have no idea what this guys background is. Lighten up.
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I think both comments were sorta out of line.



Now....


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We need a CB, or DL in the draft next year.
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