azcardsfan1616

Some people may call me carzy but this could def. happen. I think that the cards will select andre johnson with the 6th pick. Now that jenkins and sanders are gone i think the cards look at the draft to find WR's. In the 4th round i could see them taking another WR maybe a Wade or the kid from harvard, a deep threat kind of reciever. Johnson would automatically become the teams #1 WR. I know people want defense but if johnson is there i would take him in a heartbeat.

kerouac9

Sanders isn't gone yet. Don't worry, I'm not sure if anyone really wants him. If he leaves, it'll be to a contender for the NFL minimum. I think a lot of teams would rather have Orande Gadsen. Heck, I'd rather the Cards have Orande Gadsen. He's supposed to be a fabulous locker room guy.

The Cards are drafting D in round 1. I'm telling you. It's going to happen.

Johnson isn't automatically #1 after being drafted. I don't think there's a single example in recent memory of a rookie WR instantly being named #1 and performing at an all-pro level in that first season. Rookie WRs can't match up against #1 CBs. Rookie WRs make good impacts as slot guys, then move into the starting lineup in their second seasons. This is what happened to Chris Chambers, who was the #3 his rookie campaign with the Fins, and Peerless Price with the Bills his rookie year. WRs, as a general rule, don't make an impact as a starter in year 1.

azcardsfan1616

I never said he would put up pro bowl numbers his first year im just saying there is no one to challenge him for the #1 spot. Frank sanders is all but gone. This team does not want him back. Gadsden is also a reach, i dont think the cards have even called him.

Zeno

I am concerned that if the Cards select Andre Johnson he will be Thomas Jones a RB, show flashes here and there but never enough for us to be convinced he'll be a #1 WR.


The reality still is there that the Cardinals need a #1 WR and I don't believe that anybody currently on their roster is even cut out to be a #2 at this point in their careers. I'm not sold on Kasper or Gilmore for sure but believe that McAddley represents our best hope as a WR who could step up...he may come out of camp as the #2 but its like counting our chickens before they hatch.

Mr. Boldin

Randy Moss had the greatest rookie season ever, because he was the #3 rec and worked from the slot. When a rookie can run routes vs a nickle back, lb, or safety they gain lots of confidence, not to mention they are open ALOT (Josh Reed anyone?). The only thing is the Vikes used a ton of 3 wr sets, so he was always on the field. Not to mention Jake Reed and Chris Carter were there to tell him what to do if he didnt know, teach him, and give him support. We dont have this.....

kerouac9

What you said was "Johnson would automatically become the team's #1." You expect a certain level of performance from a #1 WR, and that's a Pro Bowl level of performance. If you don't think that Johnson can perform at that level right now, then why would you draft him with the #1 pick? A Top 10 pick should be an immediate starter and the best player on the team at that position, unless it's possibly a QB. If Johnson can't fill that role (and he can't), then why waste the pick on a project? We already have five of them in the depth chart.

Sanders might well end up a Card again. I don't know why they wouldn't want him back. If they don't, then they're perfectly comfortable with the top of the depth chart the way it is, and may wait until after June 1 to pick up a vet.

Mr. Boldin

I guess it all depends on your view of a "#1" WR. If your view of a #1 is a fast and physical guy who can run downt he field and catch the ball... Then he would be your number 1 man. This is not what a #1 rec does. The #1 demands that you put your best corner on him and even play a safety behind the other teams "#1" corner. The #1 wr is alos there to take the pressure off the other rec by being a multiple threat.. When I say this I am thinking of Moss, Moulds, Owens... This means they can do everything.. Short, long, middle, out...

azcardsfan1616

On this team right now you cant expect a decent year from any of our WR's. Just because Johnson becomes a #1 does not mean he automatically has to put up pro bowl numbers. To do that will take another year but at least you have a good WR and not a bunch of walk ons and second day draft picks. Every first round pick is a project no matter who you get because no one knows how they will do once in the NFL. If johnson did get drafted he would be an automatic starter and the best option for this team. Johnson would provide some sort of threat at WR unlike the rest of the other guys on this team. What if Mcaddley becomes the #1 WR do you think he should put up pro bowl numbers?

WizardOfAz

Where did he go?

azcardsfan1616

No where as of yet but the team has made it clear he is not going to be resigned.

kerouac9

Actually, I don't know what to expect from our group of WRs. I have no idea what our offensive game plan is going to be, and neither do you. If we're a power-running team, all we really need is a couple of quick guys (McAddley and Gilmore) who can stretch the field, represent the threat of the deep ball and catch it, and keep the safeties from playing within 10 yds of the line of scrimmage. If we're going to be a West Coast-style horizontal passing team, like the Neeners or the Jets or the Bears, we're going to be in a lot of trouble, because none of these guys have shown any ability to move in traffic, gain yards after the catch, or hold onto the ball while getting hit by Tommy Polley. If we're going to be a Rams-style, "huck and duck" team, then we're in trouble because we don't have Marshall Faulk, Priest Holmes, or Torry Holt. I have the feeling that we're going to be a power running team. While I may be dubious about that strategy being able to work in our division, I'm willing to let us be what we are.

In case you don't remember, T.O. was a second-day pick. I think Rod Smith might have been a late-round pick. Ahman Green was a second-day pick. There are plenty of great players that weren't picked in the first round.

I don't think you can expect a Top 10 year out of any of our WRs, but the Falcons, Browns, and Pats (to name a few) had very productive seasons with having a bunch of nobodies at WR.

This team has too many holes to waste a Top 10 pick on a player that's not going to be servicible for a year or two. When you're drafting lower in the first round, that's fine, but when you're in the Top 10, you have to use that pick on a player who will make an immediate impact as a starter, and WRs have shown in the past that that's not going to happen. A DE, DT, or CB would immediately project into the starting lineup and help the team in an area that fits with the gameplan (A power running team needs a decent to good D because they're not going to score a lot of points. They especially need a good D line and secondary so that teams won't pass all over them and run up the score so you have to move out of your gameplan.). The #6 would be better used with a player like that. This year.

Krangthebrain

Wrong. T.O. was a third rounder.

Rod Smith was an undrafted free agent.

Ahman Green was a second rounder.

But you did make your point.....there are plenty of good to great players, not selected in the first round.

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Krangthebrain

Wrong again. Terry Glenn became the number one target of the Patriots his rookie year propelling them to a Super Bowl. He had something like 90 catches.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...s?statsId=3515

So, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that a rookie can come in an be an impact player at wide receiver. Randy Moss is another recent example also. But generally you are right in your logic.

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Shane H

Please find this and tell me when the the team made a statement saying anything of the sort?????

In fact Rod Graves has said that the team would like to have Frank Sanders back and that frank has told the Cardinals that he will tell them about any deals he is offered before signing to see if the Card will match or better the offer!

Krangthebrain

Very true....the team has always said they want him back.

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