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Our 2 biggest needs are a pass rushing end and a another quality wide receiver.
The question is where are we going to find them.
I say the best wide receiver will be found after June 1.
Free agent ends look like they are gone......so I say the draft for defensive end or defensive line. A 3rd or 4th round pick at DE may still help our pass rush. Suggs is of course my first choice but I doubt if the's there when we pick.
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Originally posted by BuckeyeCardinal Our 2 biggest needs are a pass rushing end and a another quality wide receiver.
The question is where are we going to find them.
I say the best wide receiver will be found after June 1.
Free agent ends look like they are gone......so I say the draft for defensive end or defensive line. A 3rd or 4th round pick at DE may still help our pass rush. Suggs is of course my first choice but I doubt if the's there when we pick.
The best WR will probably come out after June 1, but he'll be a washed up player who'll only take snaps away from our young guys, and may not be the kind of exact route runner that Sully might demand. I'm not sure if that'll fit into our system. I have the baseless feeling that this might be as good as it gets, unless Sully talks to Crowell or something and they have the ol' chemistry, or KC releases Johnnie Morton and the same thing happens (I thought we should have gotten Morton last season. Could you imagine Boston and Morton as 1 and 2?). Sullivan's had a lot of time to get these guys ready under his system, and I'm wondering whether or not he thinks they're ready to fly.
I hope that the Cards pick up Suggs with the #6. If he's gone, I hope they get a 2-gap DT like Kennedy or Robertson (if he's a true 2-gapper, not a 1-gapper that can play 2 gap), or trade further down to get one. In Round 2, it's possible that someone they wanted will fall that high. You can't really predict what'll happen after round one.
I think the priorities should be getting a 2-gap DT, getting a Holliday or Ahanatu-type DE to play across from KVB (Wakefield is simply unacceptable), and maybe a late-round KGB-style DE if they can't get Suggs to hedge their bets against B. Johnson not progressing. A promising possession WR in the Frank Sanders mold would be nice in the middle rounds, as would another CB, S, interior O-lineman, and pass-catching TE. I think the only things we don't need to worry about in the draft are QB and RB, and maybe LB (though I still don't think that Ronnie Mac is the solution, and would like to have a youngin to groom).
Maybe, but I'd be surprised. He's not a pure #1, more of a possession #2. I mean, the guy's a vaccuum for the ball, and I'm not sure coach Fox is just going to let his best WR from last season walk away.
"The best WR will probably come out after June 1, but he'll be a washed up player who'll only take snaps away from our young guys."
You haven't checked the waiver wires very much the last few years....it's not just washed up guys....it's too expensive guys as well....we can afford them.
Even if your premise is true....your second statement gives me a fuzzy feeling.....taking away snaps from our young guys?....you must think they're OK....so do I.
I don't know... Name the last very good WR (not a stud, just a #1 at or near his prime [on either side]) to spring free from his team, prior to DB. Jerry Rice doesn't count. He was a Raider just as soon as he left the Neeners.
I don't know anything about the young guys. A lot of people on the board were saying, "Hey, the Front Office knows more than we do by far" when DB wasn't tagged. I don't know why a lot of those people are demanding that we draft Andre Johnson or trade for Marcus Robinson, who hasn't proven anything but the ability to stand on the sideline in street clothes. Why won't they give Sully the benefit of the doubt on this one?
Originally posted by kerouac9 The best WR will probably come out after June 1, but he'll be a washed up player who'll only take snaps away from our young guys, and may not be the kind of exact route runner that Sully might demand. I'm not sure if that'll fit into our system. I have the baseless feeling that this might be as good as it gets, unless Sully talks to Crowell or something and they have the ol' chemistry, or KC releases Johnnie Morton and the same thing happens (I thought we should have gotten Morton last season. Could you imagine Boston and Morton as 1 and 2?). Sullivan's had a lot of time to get these guys ready under his system, and I'm wondering whether or not he thinks they're ready to fly.
I hope that the Cards pick up Suggs with the #6. If he's gone, I hope they get a 2-gap DT like Kennedy or Robertson (if he's a true 2-gapper, not a 1-gapper that can play 2 gap), or trade further down to get one. In Round 2, it's possible that someone they wanted will fall that high. You can't really predict what'll happen after round one.
I think the priorities should be getting a 2-gap DT, getting a Holliday or Ahanatu-type DE to play across from KVB (Wakefield is simply unacceptable), and maybe a late-round KGB-style DE if they can't get Suggs to hedge their bets against B. Johnson not progressing. A promising possession WR in the Frank Sanders mold would be nice in the middle rounds, as would another CB, S, interior O-lineman, and pass-catching TE. I think the only things we don't need to worry about in the draft are QB and RB, and maybe LB (though I still don't think that Ronnie Mac is the solution, and would like to have a youngin to groom).
You think Wakefield is not acceptable, but Ahanotu is?????
Kennedy will be an only be an ok to good NFL player, imo....
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Originally posted by Krangthebrain You think Wakefield is not acceptable, but Ahanotu is?????
Kennedy will be an only be an ok to good NFL player, imo....
No, I don't want Ahanotu any more than I want Holliday, but I want a young player in that mold, one who can protect primarily against the run (we are in a division with Faulk, Hearst/Barlow, and Alexander [though I don't think he's all that great if you're playing a day game]), but can also collapse the pocket a little bit if they drop back on 2nd and 6. Mainly, we need more talent at DE, and if we can do it with one every-down player like Suggs, great, but if you need two and can get a KGB-type to spell a Holliday-type, that's just as good, especially in the heat of the early fall.
1. Suggs (still).
2. Closely followed by robertson..I would be happy with robertson or suggs.
3. If both gone (very unlikely) _trade down. I assume newman will go in top 5 - he would be my 3rd choice - but he will be gone..
No way do I want a receiver (or qb) with the #6 pick.
Originally posted by pinnacle my cards draft board for #6 pick:
1. Suggs (still).
2. Closely followed by robertson..I would be happy with robertson or suggs.
3. If both gone (very unlikely) _trade down. I assume newman will go in top 5 - he would be my 3rd choice - but he will be gone..
No way do I want a receiver (or qb) with the #6 pick.
If Suggs and Robertson are gone and Kennedy is still there (say CHI took Suggs and DAL took Newman), do you take Kennedy, or trade down?
Originally posted by kerouac9 If Suggs and Robertson are gone and Kennedy is still there (say CHI took Suggs and DAL took Newman), do you take Kennedy, or trade down?
I say we draft Leftwich
I know I know don't say it agian please....
Originally posted by kerouac9 No, I don't want Ahanotu any more than I want Holliday, but I want a young player in that mold, one who can protect primarily against the run (we are in a division with Faulk, Hearst/Barlow, and Alexander [though I don't think he's all that great if you're playing a day game]), but can also collapse the pocket a little bit if they drop back on 2nd and 6. Mainly, we need more talent at DE, and if we can do it with one every-down player like Suggs, great, but if you need two and can get a KGB-type to spell a Holliday-type, that's just as good, especially in the heat of the early fall.
Ahanotu is like a ten year vet, not a young player.
I do agree that we need an end, but I think we just need a pass rusher. Wakefield is ok against the run, though he did regress last year.
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Originally posted by kerouac9 If Suggs and Robertson are gone and Kennedy is still there (say CHI took Suggs and DAL took Newman), do you take Kennedy, or trade down?
I know that you didn't ask me, but I would trade down.
I have seen nothing that makes me think that Kennedy is worthy of the sixth overall pick. He is slow, gets out of shape, and his weight fluctuates too much (shows that he doesn't have that good of a work ethic).
By the way....Kennedy had one sack last year, except for one game (much like Holliday).
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