If We Are Forced to Trade Q

Reddog · February 2nd, 2009, 03:09 PM

How about the Raiders #8 and Justin Fargas?

Timm Rosenbach · February 2nd, 2009, 03:11 PM

In a second.

anks106 · February 2nd, 2009, 03:12 PM

I think we are severely overestimating Boldins value.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think teams will think about the Roy Williams trade and be wary of giving up a lot or a high 1st.

conraddobler · February 2nd, 2009, 03:14 PM

The Eagles have the most reason to do the deal, teams like that will go after him but you're right they'll try the stingy route first.

The trouble is Boldin dosen't care what we get for him and we're stuck forcing a malcontent situation or getting what we can for him, teams will try and force us to blink.

azsouthendzone · February 2nd, 2009, 03:15 PM

Why would the Roy Williams trade have a negative impact on Boldin's value? That makes absolutely no sense. Fargas sucks. I would rather have another pick.

az jam · February 2nd, 2009, 04:19 PM

I don't think the Cardinal organization wants to pay big bucks for a top ten pick again. I think an Eagles trade for one of their first round picks make more sense as they have two number ones in the draft (#21 & #28). Perhaps one of their first and a third makes good sense.

IAWarnerFan · February 2nd, 2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by anks106

I think we are severely overestimating Boldins value.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think teams will think about the Roy Williams trade and be wary of giving up a lot or a high 1st.

I don't think so. He's been statistically one of the best WR's in the league and teams would be willing to give up a lot for him. I get the feeling that Fitz want him to stay here as well. If we decide to keep Boldin, we can see what we'd get for Breaston. Not as much for sure, but probably something good in return for him as well. We can be ok with one less weapon either way tho.

joeshmo · February 2nd, 2009, 04:28 PM

Good Player for Good player trades are far and few between. Champ for Portis being the only one in the last 10 years. Just so highly unlikely.

Top 10 pick for Boldin is highly overestimating his value IMO and undervaluing the top 10 pick.

Would the Cards even want a top 10 pick and their salary. I dont think the cards want that burden again unless they really like a QB.

Last year the rumor was that up to 10 teams were offering a future #1 pick in the draft. It wasnt just the Eagles that called. So a 1st rounder is still likely just not a top 10.

The highest likely hood of teams who are also looking for more WR's are

Eagles and Detriot - because they both have two first rounders.
Dolphins and Giants - because they have multiple 2nd rounders thus losing a 1st rounder wouldnt be as big of a blow.
Wild Card team - The Titans.

Mitch · February 2nd, 2009, 04:28 PM

We need to hold on to Q. He's a rare player.

anks106 · February 2nd, 2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IAWarnerFan

I don't think so. He's been statistically one of the best WR's in the league and teams would be willing to give up a lot for him. I get the feeling that Fitz want him to stay here as well. If we decide to keep Boldin, we can see what we'd get for Breaston. Not as much for sure, but probably something good in return for him as well. We can be ok with one less weapon either way tho.

He has also been injury prone and not happy. Discontents don't get the same value as happy players. I hope I'm wrong, I hope I'm wrong about him being a discontent too as I want him playing in Red and White next season. I just don't think we are getting a good HB and a top 8 pick for him.

anks106 · February 2nd, 2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by azsouthendzone

Why would the Roy Williams trade have a negative impact on Boldin's value? That makes absolutely no sense. Fargas sucks. I would rather have another pick.

Simple, teams look at what other teams do. Cowboys overpay for Williams and get barely any output, teams are worried about being in the same situation.

Fargas also doesn't suck, he plays behind a terrible O-line and gets yardage he shouldn't. I've watched him play and he would be a contributor on our team.

Cards_Campos · February 2nd, 2009, 04:35 PM

Are we insane??? Boldin is a top 6 receiver who..if you dont realize...probably helps get Warner back. Why would we want to have a top 8 pick...when drafts are a crap shoot...and Justin Vargus???? Vargus....Vargus....did you say Vargus? A taller JJ Arrington? Boldin is our heart and soul. I dont care what he has said....We need him and Whiz will keep him.

Divide Et Impera · February 2nd, 2009, 04:36 PM

anks106:

Agreed on Fargas. The dude is a runner. Tough as hell....

Arizona's Finest · February 2nd, 2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joeshmo

Good Player for Good player trades are far and few between. Champ for Portis being the only one in the last 10 years. Just so highly unlikely.

Top 10 pick for Boldin is highly overestimating his value IMO and undervaluing the top 10 pick.

Would the Cards even want a top 10 pick and their salary. I dont think the cards want that burden again unless they really like a QB.

Last year the rumor was that up to 10 teams were offering a future #1 pick in the draft. It wasnt just the Eagles that called. So a 1st rounder is still likely just not a top 10.

The highest likely hood of teams who are also looking for more WR's are

Eagles and Detriot - because they both have two first rounders.
Dolphins and Giants - because they have multiple 2nd rounders thus losing a 1st rounder wouldnt be as big of a blow.
Wild Card team - The Titans.

Jacksonville?

joeshmo · February 2nd, 2009, 04:48 PM

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Jacksonville?

Jax wont pony up for a contract that Boldin will want. One of the poorest teams in the league that doesnt like to spend much. They have been getting by with coaching for so long but its starting to catch up to them. The only reason they were high up on the total salary scale this year was because of multiple draft picks that got paid big up front money, but other then that they are usually at the bottom in terms of how much total salary they actually spend.