January 17th, 2005, 03:56 AM
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Herman Edwards blew it.
Taking a knee and losing a yard on 3rd down. The man is so typical of defense oriented head coaches. 3 games on the road and overtime and he still didn't learn. Hackett gets the blame for play calling , yet Edwards won't turn it loose. All he wants is close games. The man's got great ofensive players and refuses to use them. With that defense , the Jets should be going to the Super Bowl. So why won't he try scoring some damned points? Moron, I think. 
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January 17th, 2005, 04:04 AM
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lol...sucks fer the kicker who missed twice...
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January 17th, 2005, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wallyburger
Taking a knee and losing a yard on 3rd down. The man is so typical of defense oriented head coaches. 3 games on the road and overtime and he still didn't learn. Hackett gets the blame for play calling , yet Edwards won't turn it loose. All he wants is close games. The man's got great ofensive players and refuses to use them. With that defense , the Jets should be going to the Super Bowl. So why won't he try scoring some damned points? Moron, I think. 
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We think alike. IN fact I was watching pretty closely and it seemed like Pennington was saying the same thing as if he A) wanted to actually try and get the first down and B) was wondering why in order to "Center" the ball, they intentionally lost yardage for a kicker who'd just hit the crossbar.
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January 17th, 2005, 06:50 AM
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The kicker blew it. (Twice!)
If you want to criticize anyone, it shouldn't be Herm Edwards or even Paul Hackett (who I thought called a good game). Go after the GM, Terry Bradway - he's the guy who brought in a kicker with a track record of biting the big one at crunch time.
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January 17th, 2005, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JeffGollin
The kicker blew it. (Twice!)
If you want to criticize anyone, it shouldn't be Herm Edwards or even Paul Hackett (who I thought called a good game). Go after the GM, Terry Bradway - he's the guy who brought in a kicker with a track record of biting the big one at crunch time.
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Think about this. Edward's knows his kicker blows, yet he still sets him up for failure. The buck has to stop with Herman. He restricts his offense, so that most games come down to a FG kicker who can't hit a bull in the butt with a board.
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January 17th, 2005, 07:32 AM
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Was'nt Pennington's last play just to run off two extra seconds?
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January 17th, 2005, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenCard
Was'nt Pennington's last play just to run off two extra seconds?
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But he LOST yardage, which for a kicker who just came up short a few minutes ago seemed kind of Bass ackwards to me.
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January 17th, 2005, 07:41 AM
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I'm telling ya, you throw at LEAST ONE out-and-up, or slant-and-go, with a strong pump fake. That way, you take at least one shot at a TD, giving yourself two chances to score instead of one. It was gutless coaching by Edwards this week, and Schottenheimer the week before. They both deserved to lose.
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January 17th, 2005, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Russ Smith
But he LOST yardage, which for a kicker who just came up short a few minutes ago seemed kind of Bass ackwards to me.
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He also failed to get it to the middle of the field. It was the stupidest call of the playoffs so far.
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January 17th, 2005, 08:29 AM
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Hey fudge packers..go for 2 ;)
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The 'taking the knee' play was stupid on so many levels. I was rooting loosely for the Steelers, and had a friend over who is a Jets fan. We both figured they'd try on third down, so if the snap was messed up, they could try again. Then they come out to run a play. We were a bit confused, but okay, maybe to center the ball...whatever. Then he takes a knee to run the clock down. ??? we're thinking. THEN he leaves extra time on the clock. THEN he finally gets the kicker in.
No sense at all. Not as bad as Tice's decisions, but still.
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January 17th, 2005, 09:06 AM
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I was rooting for the Jets and could not believe he missed those. Bad play calling-Hackett will be fired I think. Edwards will probably get an ultimatum from Bradway saying fire Hackett or your gone.
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January 17th, 2005, 01:12 PM
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I was rooting for the Jets and could not believe he missed those.
I was rooting against the Jets and felt it was pretty much 50-50 (both times) that Brien would blow it.
On a parallel topic, did anyone else find themselves in the predicament of having to root for Philadephia over the Vikes because, "if the Vikes were to win & go on to the Super Bowl, Dennis would have a harder time prying some of his former players (like possibly Hovan) away from that team after the season was over?"
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January 17th, 2005, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffGollin
I was rooting for the Jets and could not believe he missed those.
I was rooting against the Jets and felt it was pretty much 50-50 (both times) that Brien would blow it.
On a parallel topic, did anyone else find themselves in the predicament of having to root for Philadephia over the Vikes because, "if the Vikes were to win & go on to the Super Bowl, Dennis would have a harder time prying some of his former players (like possibly Hovan) away from that team after the season was over?"
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I was more rooting for the Eagles, because the Vikes had no shot against ATL and I did not want the Falcons to go to the superbowl. They just seem to be too cocky. I like the fact that the eagles have been battling for years now and I think they deserve a superbowl visit.
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January 17th, 2005, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffGollin
I was rooting for the Jets and could not believe he missed those.
I was rooting against the Jets and felt it was pretty much 50-50 (both times) that Brien would blow it.
On a parallel topic, did anyone else find themselves in the predicament of having to root for Philadephia over the Vikes because, "if the Vikes were to win & go on to the Super Bowl, Dennis would have a harder time prying some of his former players (like possibly Hovan) away from that team after the season was over?"
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WHY? He was 97% from that range in his career and something like 10-12 from 40-49 thisb year. Seems like he SHOULD have made it to me. 
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January 17th, 2005, 02:02 PM
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Herm's mistake was that the Jets O had Pitt on their heels after what seemed like a killer Ben R turnover--
he gets to what he feels like is field goal range at the 25 yard line, and totally goes conservative with two handoffs into the middle of the line.
If you trust your QB not to do something stupid at midfield, why not at the 25 yard line? At the 25, you have a 42 yard field goal-- makeable, but not a chip shot-- particularly when you consider the field conditions to be so-so.
Throw a 7 yard hitch pattern and turn that 42 yard attempt into a 35 yarder.
What is even more inexcusable is that the Jets wouldnt even have been playing at Pitt had Marty S not done THE SAME THING the week before.
In many respects, this was the Denny G offense. Move the ball between the 20's -- get into field goal range and then hand it off to Emmitt three times and kick the field goal.
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