September 16th, 2007, 02:00 PM
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Things have changed.
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Extra 3rd down?
5 yard facemask added on to the end of the play...should have been 4th down!
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September 16th, 2007, 02:03 PM
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The Arizona Fitzharmonic.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCardFan
5 yard facemask added on to the end of the play...should have been 4th down!
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exactly like SF game...I hate this team...
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September 16th, 2007, 02:09 PM
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Its on the refs.
They gave Seattle an extra down.
Seattle even had the punt team out.
Whis blew it by not getting the official to stop play.
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September 16th, 2007, 02:17 PM
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The Original Whizzinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCardFan
Its on the refs.
They gave Seattle an extra down.
Seattle even had the punt team out.
Whis blew it by not getting the official to stop play.
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It was during the play not after the play so the down was replayed after 5 yard penalty.
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September 16th, 2007, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ Smith
It was during the play not after the play so the down was replayed after 5 yard penalty.
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But it was 2nd and 18?
It was 3rd and 9 after the penalty.
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September 16th, 2007, 02:36 PM
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Like a boss
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCardFan
But it was 2nd and 18?
It was 3rd and 9 after the penalty.
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That's why I was confused. They got the yards from the play, the penalty yards and kept the down.
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September 16th, 2007, 02:38 PM
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The Original Whizzinator
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3-18-SEA 40 (11:12) 8-M.Hasselbeck pass short left to 37-S.Alexander to SEA 44 for 4 yards (25-E.Green). PENALTY on ARZ-25-E.Green, Face Mask (5 Yards), 5 yards, enforced at SEA 44.
3-9-SEA 49 (10:56) 8-M.Hasselbeck pass short middle to 84-B.Engram to ARZ 25 for 26 yards (21-A.Rolle).
TV must have had the down wrong they had 3rd and 18 on radio.
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September 16th, 2007, 03:36 PM
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1-10-SEA 48 (11:55) 8-M.Hasselbeck pass incomplete short left to 81-N.Burleson. PENALTY on SEA-8-M.Hasselbeck, Intentional Grounding, 10 yards, enforced at SEA 48.
2-20-SEA 38 (11:50) 37-S.Alexander up the middle to SEA 40 for 2 yards (94-A.Smith).
3-18-SEA 40 (11:12) 8-M.Hasselbeck pass short left to 37-S.Alexander to SEA 44 for 4 yards (25-E.Green). PENALTY on ARZ-25-E.Green, Face Mask (5 Yards), 5 yards, enforced at SEA 44.
3-9-SEA 49 (10:56) 8-M.Hasselbeck pass short middle to 84-B.Engram to ARZ 25 for 26 yards (21-A.Rolle).
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September 16th, 2007, 03:37 PM
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Registered
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Assface
That's why I was confused. They got the yards from the play, the penalty yards and kept the down.
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I'm with assface. How did they keep the yardage, the penalty, and the down?
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September 16th, 2007, 04:06 PM
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meh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrustratedFan04
I'm with assface. How did they keep the yardage, the penalty, and the down?
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The fix was in.
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September 16th, 2007, 04:08 PM
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Honestly it was surprising to me as well and I didn't totally follow it....but if you look that the rules listed here http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries it is a 5 yard penalty and does NOT result in the loss of down. It is more or less like a running into the kicker penalty.
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September 16th, 2007, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome_Seahawk
Honestly it was surprising to me as well and I didn't totally follow it....but if you look that the rules listed here http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries it is a 5 yard penalty and does NOT result in the loss of down. It is more or less like a running into the kicker penalty.
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They got the penalty and the play...without using a down.
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September 16th, 2007, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCardFan
They got the penalty and the play...without using a down.
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I don't claim to understand the enforcement of it, but the fact that Engram gained 26 yards on the following play kind of shows that the disparity in placement of the ball probably didn't end up mattering.
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September 16th, 2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrome_Seahawk
I don't claim to understand the enforcement of it, but the fact that Engram gained 26 yards on the following play kind of shows that the disparity in placement of the ball probably didn't end up mattering.
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Would not have been the same play or the same execution. Butterfly effect.
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September 16th, 2007, 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome_Seahawk
I don't claim to understand the enforcement of it, but the fact that Engram gained 26 yards on the following play kind of shows that the disparity in placement of the ball probably didn't end up mattering.
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They had the punting unit on the field for 4th down.
The refs screwed up and said it was still 3rd.
They got the first down on 3rd down (and a td)...when they would have punted.
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