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Old November 23rd, 2008, 05:39 PM   #1
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End of Half Free Kick...


What was that about? What are the rules regarding that? BTW, he missed it pretty bad.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 05:41 PM   #2
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In case anyone is wondering, a team can try a field goal after a fair catch without a pass rush. That's why the Cards did what they did. You immediately give up possession, so it's a worthless rule unless it's at the end of a half. Neil Rackers tried to get a big leg under it and it squibbed. It would have been 68 yards, and it's a tough way to have a streak of 15 straight made field goals end.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 05:43 PM   #3
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What was that about? What are the rules regarding that? BTW, he missed it pretty bad.
Its called a "fair-catch kick." Basically, if you call for a fair catch on the previous play, you can attempt it.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 05:43 PM   #4
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If a player signals for and gets a free catch, the team if they so chooses can attempt a free kick (its like a kick off because the opposing team can't attempt to block it but if it goes through the uprights its a FG). Its a subsection of one of the rules and often gets forgotten.

He probably should attempted it off the tee instead of trying to have Johnson try and hold it
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 05:44 PM   #5
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What was that about? What are the rules regarding that? BTW, he missed it pretty bad.
After a fair catch, a team has the right to try a free kick from the spot if they so choose. Pretty much the only time they would want to try it would be the end of a half... otherwise they'd want posession.

It almost came up in 2006 at the end of the Cards Rams game that Bulger and Warner both tried to fumble away, but didn't happen because the Cards were penalized on the play.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 05:45 PM   #6
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It is usually used in such cases where you don't have time to advance the ball and just can hope it goes thru at the end of haf or game. It is kind of like a hail merry.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 05:45 PM   #7
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What was that about? What are the rules regarding that? BTW, he missed it pretty bad.
In the event of a fair catch after a kick, the receiving team can elect to have a free kick for a field goal. The opposing team may be 10 yards away from the point of the kick (line of scrimmage).

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Old November 23rd, 2008, 06:57 PM   #8
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He probably should attempted it off the tee instead of trying to have Johnson try and hold it
You can't attempt a FG from a tee.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 07:04 PM   #9
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You can't attempt a FG from a tee.
I believe they are allowed to only on a free kick. Could be wrong though (the commentators made it seem that way).
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With that field position, I would have rather seen a hail mary, a la 49ers last season. We would have had a better chance of punching it in the end zone that way than hitting a 68 yard fair-catch kick
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 07:07 PM   #11
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You can't attempt a FG from a tee.
I think you can in this case. At least they talked about it on the telecast...Johnston even said he was surprised Rackers wasn't using a tee.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 07:41 PM   #12
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I think you can in this case. At least they talked about it on the telecast...Johnston even said he was surprised Rackers wasn't using a tee.

NFL RULES: Fair Catch Kick

FAIR CATCH KICK

1. After a fair catch, the receiving team has the option to put the ball in play by a snap or a fair catch kick (field goal attempt), with fair catch kick lines established ten yards apart. All general rules apply as for a field goal attempt from scrimmage. The clock starts when the ball is kicked. (No tee permitted.)
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The announcers were wrong. No tee allowed. Rackers didn't just kick off the ground by choice.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 08:08 PM   #14
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Wink

No tee is allowed but I wonder if the holder can hold it on his toe like we used to do when we were kids and we didn't have a tee. One guy would hold the bottom of the ball on his toe and the top with his finger.

Now that would have made it even more interesting.
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No tee is allowed but I wonder if the holder can hold it on his toe like we used to do when we were kids and we didn't have a tee. One guy would hold the bottom of the ball on his toe and the top with his finger.

Now that would have made it even more interesting.
I don't think so - the point of the kick for points is that the ball has to touch the ground - hence the kick from last year (I believe that it was Flutie) where the kicker let it bouce on the ground before kicking it through for an old school PAT / FG.

The tee prevents the ball from touching the ground, which is why it doesn't count for point, IIRC.
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