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I was one who thought Hightower needed to get more carries and that Edge should be in the Bettis(final season) role but this quote makes me think that Edge might not be able to handle the situation:
From Somers' article
Quote:
"I don't fit the 'yes-man' mold," he said, "so it's going to always come down on me. I'm not going to be a yes man. They can sit me down for the rest of the year, it don't matter. I'll come out, go to work. I expected him (Tim) to have a big day. We knew we should have a big day running the ball, regardless of who was in there."
He sure seems to be taking some shots and since Hightower is a bit of a carbon copy in terms of running style, JJ might be a better compliment to him than Edge. If he's going to have this kind of attitude, I could care less about his resume' and say let the team move forward without him. He very much seems like he's more about "me" than "team".
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I like when quotes are used without context to back an opinion.
Edge wants to play. That's fine.
He didn't play. That's fine too.
But anyone who doesn't realize any of our RBs would have had success against the Rams isn't thinking straight, as the Cards have torn them up on the ground with everyone the last few years.
But anyone who doesn't realize any of our RBs would have had success against the Rams isn't thinking straight, as the Cards have torn them up on the ground with everyone the last few years.
I'm not debating the point made by Edge, just the decision and timing of it. He's essentially saying that Hightower didn't do anything that he wouldn't have done himself and that's a potshot as well as untrue. Edge may have had a good game but history shows that he wouldn't have had a long TD run and recent games have shown that he can't catch very well and has fumbled at critical times.
Implying that Hightower is a "yes man" and that's why he has the starting job seems a bit classless as well. I don't chalk up either of these statements by Edge as just having a desire to play. Prima donna is more like it.
But again, it's Edge's decision to air these frustrations in interviews that's the issue.
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I'm not debating the point made by Edge, just the decision and timing of it. He's essentially saying that Hightower didn't do anything that he wouldn't have done himself and that's a potshot as well as untrue. Edge may have had a good game but history shows that he wouldn't have had a long TD run and recent games have shown that he can't catch very well and has fumbled at critical times.
Implying that Hightower is a "yes man" and that's why he has the starting job seems a bit classless as well. I don't chalk up either of these statements by Edge as just having a desire to play. Prima donna is more like it.
But again, it's Edge's decision to air these frustrations in interviews that's the issue.
I have no problem with any of those statements, and think exactly the opposite about those quotes and what they mean.
I see no actions by Edge that deem him to be undermining the team. And to think he would come out and say that Hightower is better than himself is ridiculous. I haven't heard of any athlete in any sport say something like that.
There seems to be a lot of assumptions based on a few quotes. Hightower has had one good game.
I think the gross Edge bashing is getting over the top, especially for guy that has done a lot for this club.
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Last edited by RugbyMuffin; November 8th, 2008 at 08:46 AM.
I think the gross Edge bashing is getting over the top, especially for guy that has done a lot for this club.
What has Edge done here, that the stable of backs we have had since 88 didn't?
Sure, he had back to back 1,000+ seasons here, but his meager average compares similarly to all our previous backs, which suggests if any of them (Jones, Arrington, Shipp, Pittman Hearst etc.) had seen similar amounts of carries, the numbers would have been roughly the same.
Face it, for the scratch he gets to play here.. Edge has been a HUGE bust.
I'm not debating the point made by Edge, just the decision and timing of it. He's essentially saying that Hightower didn't do anything that he wouldn't have done himself and that's a potshot as well as untrue. Edge may have had a good game but history shows that he wouldn't have had a long TD run and recent games have shown that he can't catch very well and has fumbled at critical times.
Implying that Hightower is a "yes man" and that's why he has the starting job seems a bit classless as well. I don't chalk up either of these statements by Edge as just having a desire to play. Prima donna is more like it.
But again, it's Edge's decision to air these frustrations in interviews that's the issue.
I got something totally different out of it. It sounds like Edge had a disagreement with the coaching staff or management and couldn't swallow his pride enough to agree to disagree. His punishment was not getting a single carry.
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I like when quotes are used without context to back an opinion.
Edge wants to play. That's fine.
He didn't play. That's fine too.
But anyone who doesn't realize any of our RBs would have had success against the Rams isn't thinking straight, as the Cards have torn them up on the ground with everyone the last few years.
Um, sorry, but Edge wouldn't have had a ton of success and wouldn't have sniffed 100 yards. Several TH runs of over 10 yards would have been 3-4 yard gainers with the slower Edge. Edge also doesn't break that 30-yd TD run. Edge may have eked out a few more yards when getting hit in the backfield, but that's about it.
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Read the thing multiple times and still trying to figure out where this so called Dis that is being talked about is coming from.
Sounds to me like Edge has confidence in our runningback stable. Sounds like he himself knows how good Hightower is.
Trying to find out how one could get that he was calling Hightower a "yes man". It wasnt even implied. All he did was imply that he didnt agree with the coaches and their scheme and how they use him and he let them know it.
People just like to read way to much into simple quotes to often. The simplest of answers is usually the right one. And the simpliest of answers is that Edge just isnt in touch with his skillset anymore and hasnt face reaility. Nothing less, nothing more. If Edge was dissing Hightower then Edge wouldnt have been the first one to meet Hightower on the sidelines to give him props. Hightower wouldnt have given Edge his game ball.
I have no problem with any of those statements, and think exactly the opposite about those quotes and what they mean.
I see no actions by Edge that deem him to be undermining the team. And to think he would come out and say that Hightower is better than himself is ridiculous. I haven't heard of any athlete in any sport say something like that.
There seems to be a lot of assumptions based on a few quotes. Hightower has had one good game.
I think the gross Edge bashing is getting over the top, especially for guy that has done a lot for this club.
The way Edge acted on the sideline during the game was most telling in my opinion. He was genuinely happy for Tim and looked glad to be on a team that was finally dominating. He knows this team is going places and that we are going to need him to succeed. I think he's alright with that. Its got to be a lot better than being the starter on a team that is 1-8, as the number one back as in the Denny Green years.
"We knew we should have a big day running the ball, regardless of who was in there."
This is the quote that is concerning to me. That is demeaning the job that TH did and basically saying he himself would have had a big day as well had he been toting the rock. Which is complete bunk.
Edge would have had about 6o yards and no TD's in that game at best.
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Read the thing multiple times and still trying to figure out where this so called Dis that is being talked about is coming from.
Sounds to me like Edge has confidence in our runningback stable. Sounds like he himself knows how good Hightower is.
Trying to find out how one could get that he was calling Hightower a "yes man". It wasnt even implied. All he did was imply that he didnt agree with the coaches and their scheme and how they use him and he let them know it.
People just like to read way to much into simple quotes to often. The simplest of answers is usually the right one. And the simpliest of answers is that Edge just isnt in touch with his skillset anymore and hasnt face reaility. Nothing less, nothing more. If Edge was dissing Hightower then Edge wouldnt have been the first one to meet Hightower on the sidelines to give him props. Hightower wouldnt have given Edge his game ball.
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