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I don't think Edge has to worry about fumbling anymore.
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"I don't fit the 'yes-man' mold," he said, "so it's going to always come down on me. I'm not going to be a yes man. They can sit me down for the rest of the year, it don't matter. I'll come out, go to work.
Doesn't this read: I'm not going to do it their way or be a team player so I'll just collect my paycheck?
I'm sorry, but Edge isn't exhibiting professionalism or a desire to prove he's the better option IMO.
I was excited for Tim.
Tim had a great day but I'm going to take my job back.
It's not about me. Winning is all that matters.
Please refer to Bull Durham for further examples. I don't think anyone expects him to be happy about getting benched but he's just accelerating the process if you ask me. If he wants to be sour grapes about it I don't think Whis will hesitate to reduce his workload permanently.
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What has Edge done here, that the stable of backs we have had since 88 didn't?
Sure, he had back to back 1,000+ seasons here,
You just answered your own question.
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but his meager average compares similarly to all our previous backs, which suggests if any of them (Jones, Arrington, Shipp, Pittman Hearst etc.) had seen similar amounts of carries, the numbers would have been roughly the same.
Except that for one reason or another none of them did equal his #'s. Aside from Arrington, all of the others had injury issues. Edge has been a complete workhorse and has yet to miss a game due to injury with us. If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts...
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Face it, for the scratch he gets to play here.. Edge has been a HUGE bust.
Debateable IMO.
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I was one who thought Hightower needed to get more carries and that Edge should be in the Bettis(final season) role but this quote makes me think that Edge might not be able to handle the situation:
From Somers' article
He sure seems to be taking some shots and since Hightower is a bit of a carbon copy in terms of running style, JJ might be a better compliment to him than Edge. If he's going to have this kind of attitude, I could care less about his resume' and say let the team move forward without him. He very much seems like he's more about "me" than "team".
He knew this time would come this year. The team is moving ahead and has no plans to retain him next season because of the contracts coming up next year. The org. needs to get Hightower experience and he's showing he's ready.
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Except that for one reason or another none of them did equal his #'s. Aside from Arrington, all of the others had injury issues. Edge has been a complete workhorse and has yet to miss a game due to injury with us. If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts...
I couldn't agree more.
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"We knew we should have a big day running the ball, regardless of who was in there."
This is the quote that is concerning to me. That is demeaning the job that TH did and basically saying he himself would have had a big day as well had he been toting the rock. Which is complete bunk.
Edge would have had about 6o yards and no TD's in that game at best.
I almost agree 100%. I think Edge would have made that goal line TD when Hightower couldn't do it in...what...3 tries? Everyone always says about Edge...when you need 2, he'll get ya 5...when you need 5, he'll get you 2. In that case, we only needed 1/2. He'd have gotten over that line. mho, of course.
I almost agree 100%. I think Edge would have made that goal line TD when Hightower couldn't do it in...what...3 tries? Everyone always says about Edge...when you need 2, he'll get ya 5...when you need 5, he'll get you 2. In that case, we only needed 1/2. He'd have gotten over that line. mho, of course.
Disagree. There is a reason why TH was our short yardage and Goaline RB before Edge lost his starting job. Because the coaches could see he was better at it. TH was 11 for 11 in 3rd down and short situations and perfect at the goalline prior to that series. That was an anomaly if you look at the season as a whole.
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Disagree. There is a reason why TH was our short yardage and Goaline RB before Edge lost his starting job. Because the coaches could see he was better at it. TH was 11 for 11 in 3rd down and short situations and perfect at the goalline prior to that series. That was an anomaly if you look at the season as a whole.
I wasn't trying to say that Hightower hasn't been fabulous at 3rd & short, or even goal line prior to that--I am just sayin', I think Edge would have made that TD. I just do; he'd have found a way to get across the goal line. Call it veteran experience.
Agree Linderbee! Edge would have scored as he would have squeezed through a crease somewhere its what he does. Some here just can't admit Edge can do anything better than the rookie. And we have had big running games against the Rams the past few years but thats not convenient to the TH crowd so it must be that he is just such a stud RB that he had a decent game. You guys are lying to yourselves if you wouldn't act out or have something to say at your job if you got screwed over and replaced with no explanation or no carries at all. Its a decision by Whiz that I said and think will cause issues, what do you know Edge quotes surfacing.
Regardless of what some people think about Hightower, he is a rookie and who knows what could happen. Edge is very much needed on this team still we don't need him all pissed off cursing the team in the media. Whiz needs to work it out with Edge because its a long season and you need more than one back (a rookie) to compete in this league.
Agree Linderbee! Edge would have scored as he would have squeezed through a crease somewhere its what he does. Some here just can't admit Edge can do anything better than the rookie. And we have had big running games against the Rams the past few years but thats not convenient to the TH crowd so it must be that he is just such a stud RB that he had a decent game. You guys are lying to yourselves if you wouldn't act out or have something to say at your job if you got screwed over and replaced with no explanation or no carries at all. Its a decision by Whiz that I said and think will cause issues, what do you know Edge quotes surfacing.
Regardless of what some people think about Hightower, he is a rookie and who knows what could happen. Edge is very much needed on this team still we don't need him all pissed off cursing the team in the media. Whiz needs to work it out with Edge because its a long season and you need more than one back (a rookie) to compete in this league.
Your whole basis and repeated attempts to dog TH because he is a rookie is so baseless its not even funny. Rookie RB's are one of the few position in the NFL where they can come right in and thrive and in fact be stars at the position from the get go.
This years entire rookie RB class is proving it and historu with rookie RB's proves. There are plethura of RB's who have been great since day 1. You repeated attempts to bash him because hes a rookie are just downright silly.
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Shane get a grip dude I am not bashing him, I am saying we need Edge, get it? TH may do well he may not he may get hurt do you not get this? The team needs Edge regardless of who on here thinks he's done. I don't understand what you think is so baseless, TH has had ONE decent game as a starter, sorry that doesn't fill me with joy and think TH is some future HOF'er. You do understand that most teams have more than one RB right? So to have an unhappy Edge because he gets sat with zero carries and no explanation from the coach, well thats a poor move on Whiz. I understand he didn't bring Edge here and may feel he owes him nothing, but guys on the team, you know the players that actually matter, may not see this as a classy move either for a guy who's been nothing but a professional since he has came here.
You can see it however you want Shane it was a bad move to bench Edge the way it went down. Not saying TH didn't have a good game as he did but to have Edge in uniform and not give him a single snap in the game was a very poor move by Whiz imo. This team is winning we don't need crap like this to be in the players minds we need them thinking about football, not the organization screwing around with another player.
"We knew we should have a big day running the ball, regardless of who was in there."
This is the quote that is concerning to me. That is demeaning the job that TH did and basically saying he himself would have had a big day as well had he been toting the rock. Which is complete bunk.
Edge would have had about 6o yards and no TD's in that game at best.
While I think Tim is doing a great job, there were some holes to run through, which I credit our improving line. Speculating that edge would have had a poor day is just a biased statement. I agree with the posters who saw Edge supporting Tim during the game and won't look for negativity.
Except that for one reason or another none of them did equal his #'s. Aside from Arrington, all of the others had injury issues. Edge has been a complete workhorse and has yet to miss a game due to injury with us. If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts...
Debateable IMO.
There may have been an injury preventing it a time or two, but for the most part, It had to do with trying the other back on the team, in an attempt to shake the 3. nothing suck-fest average.
You know, the same sucky 3. whatever average Edge has had here, he just broke the not so impressive anymore 1,000 yard mark, by virtue of getting the bulk of the carries, which was dictated by his enormous salary.
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