Edge Asks to be Released (PFT) - Page 8

ASUCHRIS · November 20th, 2008, 03:12 PM

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The only place where he would get any PT is a team that isn't a winner. It's truly bizarre.

Wrong. I gave two examples of teams that are winners that currently have major RB issues. That's the issue more than whether a team is a winner or not.

Chris_Sanders · November 20th, 2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

The only place where he would get any PT is a team that isn't a winner. It's truly bizarre.

Athletes don't care about winning as much as you do. The sooner fans understand that, the better. Sports are their job first and foremost. Ask any pro athlete and they will tell you that.

Clearly he takes pride in what he does. If your boss yanked all of your responsibilities, you might consider going somewhere else as well. He could just sit and collect a fat check for doing nothing, but he would rather play.

Chris_Sanders · November 20th, 2008, 03:17 PM

And if it matters, I am currently rooting for JJ to step up because Edge and Hightower have been below average.

Oh and this is no different than Q asking to be traded during camp. I will root for Edge and Q to succeed as long as they are Cardinals.

Pariah · November 20th, 2008, 04:47 PM

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Where do you honestly feel he would get PT? He would likely get released and remain unsigned would be my guess.

Yes.

Denver
Tampa
New England
Kansas City

All have been forced to start at least their 3rd string back in recent weeks. And he'd be a clear #2 RN on many more teams.

cheesebeef · November 20th, 2008, 04:53 PM

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Yes.

Denver
Tampa

i don't know about Denver, but I could see him splitting a little time with Dunn, although I'm not sure how much.

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New England

I don't see it. The guy they've got right now has been running pretty well for them and he's younger. This season's pretty much a wash for NE anyway so if they've got a young guy who can already tote the rock, why would they take away his touches and stunt his development for Edge?

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Kansas City

a team REALLY headed nowhere is going to go with youth over age. I wouldn't see any reason the Chiefs would pick Edge up.

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All have been forced to start at least their 3rd string back in recent weeks. And he'd be a clear #2 RN on many more teams.

a clear #2? at what price? I mean, we've got pretty poor RB depth and he's the 3 guy here. Where do you think he'd be the clear #2?

Pariah · November 20th, 2008, 05:03 PM

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i don't know about Denver, but I could see him splitting a little time with Dunn, although I'm not sure how much.

Denver just started Payton Hillis (who? Exactly.) this past week and resigned tatum Bell who was selling cell phones at a mall. I can say with 99.99% certainty he would start in denver.

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I don't see it. The guy they've got right now has been running pretty well for them and he's younger. This season's pretty much a wash for NE anyway so if they've got a young guy who can already tote the rock, why would they take away his touches and stunt his development for Edge?

BJGE was their 3rd or 4th guy. Yeah, he has been running pretty well, but when they got down to him --and only him--you don't think they would have jumped at the chance to have Edge suited up, too?

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a team REALLY headed nowhere is going to go with youth over age. I wouldn't see any reason the Chiefs would pick Edge up.

Without LArry Johnson (which they were for a number of games) they were down to 2 guys, one of which Edwards is on record saying that he doesn't believe he's an everydown back (charles), and the other one who still didn't play much (name escapes me). Yeah, I think they would have signed Edge in heartbeat, too.

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a clear #2? at what price? I mean, we've got pretty poor RB depth and he's the 3 guy here. Where do you think he'd be the clear #2?

Cinci
Cleveland
St Louis
and maybe Dallas now that Jones is out.

azsouthendzone · November 20th, 2008, 06:37 PM

Do you guys remember when edge disappeared after the Minnesota game in Denny's final season? How rediculous was that? The Cards didn't even know where he was and he did that just because they fell behind early and Leinart ended up putting up rediculous numbers that day. This guy IS about Edge first and foremost. I think the saddest part of the situation is that this is a punishment by Whiz, a punishment well deserved. Denny should have nipped it but Denny had one foot and his belly hanging out the door. The fact this guy was me first wasn't a surprise though. Everyone knew it before he signed. The Cards used him to sell tickets and create buzz. He used the Cards to get one final payday. It is what it is. In the end we all lose because the Edge/ Hightower 1-2 punch was working to some extent. Now we have no running game, and I can't blame Whiz for it. How ironic will it be if JJ steps in and becomes the focal point and earns a new deal before this is all said and done?

cheesebeef · November 20th, 2008, 06:56 PM

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Cinci

maybe, but why would a horrendous team playing for the future want to give any kind of time a back with no future? Only the 2003 Cardinals would do something like that... okay, I see your point here.

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Cleveland

Cleveland's already got Edge's clone starting for them and they got their own Hightowerish guy with Harrison who just had a big game on Monday Night. And they're another team playing for the future.

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St Louis

they just signed Jackson to a huge deal and have Pittman who was a fourth round pick as their back-up. again, you have a really bad team, playing for the future with two rbs in the stable already. Why sign Edge for the rest of the season?

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and maybe Dallas now that Jones is out.

could be. they really have nothing behind Barber and are in the thick of the playoff race.

I also think you could add Pitt to what is IMO a very short list of teams that would take him as a 2 at this point. With Parker's injury woes and they're smash-mouth game and being in the running for the playoffs, that could be a team that would have interest in Edge as a backup.

Basically, I think Pitt, Dallas, Denver and Tampa would be interested in him as #2 - not exactly that many IMO. It's not just a matter of talent with RBs Edge's age. it's a matter of need for the team and where the team's headed. Because of that combination of factors, I think his options would be extremely limited and will be even more so in the off-season, just like Alexander.

RedRob · November 20th, 2008, 06:58 PM

I think it comes down to this; both Edge and Q are good guys who work their arses off to be great players, if playing time, money, etc. aren't going their way they follow the advice of their agent who is a walking, talking douche bag.

The problem is these players don't realize the length of leash this guy has with their personal stock (call it goodwill in the business world).

HE is the one leaking the story, HE is the one playing with their perception. Yes, the ultimate responsibility lays upon the players' shoulders, however, as said I don't think they completely understand the ramifications of how this guy operates.

Pariah · November 20th, 2008, 07:08 PM

Cheese, I think you missed the part where I was talking about injury to a lot of those top guys. For instance, 3 weeks ago (when edge asked to be traded/released) STL was contemplating having to start Travis Minor because Jackson was out and Pittman was banged up.

All I'm saying is that I don't blame Edge for wanting out after a sudden and deep demotion.

82CardsGrad · November 20th, 2008, 07:33 PM

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Cheese, I think you missed the part where I was talking about injury to a lot of those top guys. For instance, 3 weeks ago (when edge asked to be traded/released) STL was contemplating having to start Travis Minor because Jackson was out and Pittman was banged up.

All I'm saying is that I don't blame Edge for wanting out after a sudden and deep demotion.

When Matt was starting over Kurt, we never heard Warner bitching about it and demanding to be released...

Edge couldn't spell class if you spotted him the C, L and both SS's...

Pariah · November 20th, 2008, 07:36 PM

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When Matt was starting over Kurt, we never heard Warner bitching about it and demanding to be released...

Edge couldn't spell class if you spotted him the C, L and both SS's...

And Leinart is at the beginning rather than the end of his career; he'll get his shot. I'm also not defending any allegations of classlessness.

82CardsGrad · November 20th, 2008, 07:40 PM

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And Leinart is at the beginning rather than the end of his career; he'll get his shot. I'm also not defending any allegations of classlessness.

Pariah, my analogy was Edge to Warner... Leinart would need to be compared to Hightower I guess...

Yes, Leinart will get his shot - perhaps... And, like Leinart had his - Hightower is now being given his shot. If he poops the bed a la Matty, Edge would then be re-inserted, a la Kurt. Difference is, Kurt never cried when it happened to him...

cheesebeef · November 20th, 2008, 08:17 PM

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Cheese, I think you missed the part where I was talking about injury to a lot of those top guys. For instance, 3 weeks ago (when edge asked to be traded/released) STL was contemplating having to start Travis Minor because Jackson was out and Pittman was banged up.

I didn't miss it. There aren't 10 day contracts in the NFL. Just cause players are banged up doesn't mean teams are going to sign Edge for the rest of the season, especially horrendous ones. Horrendous ones stay horrendous and gut it out until they're guys get back.

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All I'm saying is that I don't blame Edge for wanting out after a sudden and deep demotion.

I don't blame him either. I just think reality's gonna slap him in the face HARD this off-season.

Pariah · November 20th, 2008, 10:53 PM

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Just cause players are banged up doesn't mean teams are going to sign Edge for the rest of the season, especially horrendous ones.

Tell that to Washington (alexander). Or, if you want a "horrendous" example, tell that to Cincinatti and Detroit (Benson and Rudi Johnson).