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Old November 19th, 2008, 12:47 PM   #16
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Old November 19th, 2008, 12:53 PM   #17
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Wow talk about bombshells, I kept saying how professional he was being in all this.
I think he is still being professional. He hasnt said a word about anything to the media since his benching and his original comments. Dude hasnt spoke in weeks, according to all of the players and coaches he hasnt even been a distraction in the locker room, they all still love the guy.

He isnt speaking to the media and by all accounts is trying to keep it in house, and he isnt being a distraction in the locker the last 3 weeks. For a guy who has fallen so far from grace I think that is the best you could hope for in terms of professionalism. 99% of this so called disctractions are media speculation and not based on anything the organization, players, or Edge himself is putting out there for public consumption.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 12:57 PM   #18
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Because some people believe that Edge has always been about himself first and the team second. I'm not necessarily saying that is a bad thing. That inner drive that he has is part of what makes him so great. I'm not saying that he is TO incernate either. I truly feel that Edge is a player-first not team-first type of guy.

That's all.
Oh I agree that Edge tends to be a me first kind of guy. My beef it this bogus report from PFT. Anyone that takes that site seriously is a fool IMO.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 12:58 PM   #19
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I think he is still being professional. He hasnt said a word about anything to the media since his benching and his original comments. Dude hasnt spoke in weeks, according to all of the players and coaches he hasnt even been a distraction in the locker room, they all still love the guy.

He isnt speaking to the media and by all accounts is trying to keep it in house, and he isnt being a distraction in the locker the last 3 weeks. For a guy who has fallen so far from grace I think that is the best you could hope for in terms of professionalism. 99% of this so called disctractions are media speculation and not based on anything the organization, players, or Edge himself is putting out there for public consumption.
Not to mention he has taken Hightower under his wing. This report makes zero sense.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 12:59 PM   #20
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Ultimately, this makes me wonder if Edge was going to be deactivated for the game this weekend against the Giants.

Now, I may be wrong, but I think that James will get his salary, even if the Cards cut him.

So, I don't see why the Cards would feel any need to cut him now.

Likewise, I don't see any decent team that needs a running back right now.

So, James, given the choice between playing for a bad team but getting more carries and yards for his HOF resume, and sticking it out with the playoff-bound Cardinals that may need him if the injury bug strikes, makes his choice.

James to Cardinal Nation: "It's all about ME."

We have an excellent shot at going to post season and beyond. RB's are more fragile than any other position. Hightower could go down in one play. We need reliable backups. Edge is all we have. JJ is doing much better but he is not a heavy duty runner like Edge and can not come close to blocking on comming rushers like Edge. I have always thought we even need another RB in addition to what we have. Insanity to release him.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 01:00 PM   #21
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Because some people believe that Edge has always been about himself first and the team second. I'm not necessarily saying that is a bad thing. That inner drive that he has is part of what makes him so great. I'm not saying that he is TO incernate either. I truly feel that Edge is a player-first not team-first type of guy.

That's all.
Well even if that is all true - it would be crazy for the Cardinals to acquiesce to this demand. he's too valuable in a) cold weather b) against good pass rushing teams c) Tim's development mentaly d) and if go forbid someone gets injured.

He's not going to make enough waves to derail the team so really - even if PFT is right (and I think we all know that wouldn't the first time they saw a situation and made generalizations on what "could" be happening and made a story out of it - Mike Sherman anyone?) it's a non issue IMO.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 01:03 PM   #22
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I truly feel that Edge is a player-first not team-first type of guy.
Besides just a feeling no one has ever been able to put any kind of substance as to why they feel that way.

Me first players do not:

1. Get called the best TEAMMATE I have ever had by Payton Manning.
2. Have more then one player wear an Edge jeresy to the first day of training camp the year he left to go to another team. (Wayne, Harrison, Rhodes all wore his jersey to the first day of camp).
3. Get a super bowl ring even though you are a year removed from the Colts team.
4. Still help to motivate, train, give tips and hints, to your competition even though that competition already got you benched.
5. Get the game ball of your competition for all the help he gave to him.
6. Have Warner stick up for and laugh off the idea that he would be a distraction in an interview after the Monday night game.

Sorry but this guy is loved by all of his teammates everywhere he has gone or has met. That doesnt happen to me first players. He is me first just like any other player is me first. Warner was making the same kinds of comments the beginning of this year, he was making the same comments when benched at the Rams and at the Giants. Doesnt make them me first players just normal football players who want to play that have egos like everyone else.
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Well even if that is all true - it would be crazy for the Cardinals to acquiesce to this demand. he's too valuable in a) cold weather b) against good pass rushing teams c) Tim's development mentaly d) and if go forbid someone gets injured.

He's not going to make enough waves to derail the team so really - even if PFT is right (and I think we all know that wouldn't the first time they saw a situation and made generalizations on what "could" be happening and made a story out of it - Mike Sherman anyone?) it's a non issue IMO.
See, it's already gone from asking to demanding. That's how things get blown out of proportion. I'm sure Edge said something like ,"if you're going to bench ne can i get released to hook on with another team that i could start on." When you see the likes of Rudi Johnson, Cedric Benson, and Warrick Dunn starting, i can't blame him for asking.
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See, it's already gone from asking to demanding. That's how things get blown out of proportion. I'm sure Edge said something like ,"if you're going to bench ne can i get released to hook on with another team that i could start on." When you see the likes of Rudi Johnson, Cedric Benson, and Warrick Dunn starting, i can't blame him for asking.
My guess is that he never asked to be released and PFT is just pulling stuff out of their A$$ again!
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Old November 19th, 2008, 01:10 PM   #25
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Not to mention he has taken Hightower under his wing. This report makes zero sense.

I don't put alot of stock in this report until it is confirmed, but I think it could have gone down like this:

Before Rams Game:

Whiz: Edge you are being demoted and Hightower is starting...
Edge: Well if I am not going to be playing, can I be released so that I can catch on with another team?
Whiz: No, we'll still need you down this stretch.

PFT: (11/19/08) Edge asks to be released (implying the conversation took place weeks later than it actually did).
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Old November 19th, 2008, 01:11 PM   #26
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Why people give PFT the time of day is beyond me.

I love that site. They are the enquirer of the NFL - a "rumor" site that is accurate about stories more often than not. They don't appear to suck up to anyone or any team like most of the mainstream media has to.
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I dont understand some of the Edge hate on this board. Some of us seem to have a very short memory. Edge gave this team 2400 rushing yards in 2 seasons, I dont even think we had that much yardage as a team in the 2 years previous to Edge's arrival.

He gained those yards behind arguably THE WORST run blocking O-line in football over the past few seasons. He is still a very valuable piece of this team IMO. Hightower --who I really like--is certainly the future, but he has done squat since STL.

Its more a product of our team than the runners and we have to pass so much that the running game has become moot.

I praise Edge for his efforts here and his willingness to give our franchise a lift when it couldn't even sniff the jock of mediocre talent at the position.
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See, it's already gone from asking to demanding. That's how things get blown out of proportion. I'm sure Edge said something like ,"if you're going to bench ne can i get released to hook on with another team that i could start on." When you see the likes of Rudi Johnson, Cedric Benson, and Warrick Dunn starting, i can't blame him for asking.
Poor wording on my part. I am with you in that if anything, this was an off the hand comment and being blown out of proportion for no reason.
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I don't put alot of stock in this report until it is confirmed, but I think it could have gone down like this:

Before Rames Game:

Whiz: Edge you are being demoted and Hightower is starting...
Edge: Well if I am not going to be playing, can I be released so that I can catch on with another team?
Whiz: No, we'll still need you down this stretch.

PFT: (11/19/08) Edge asks to be released (implying the conversation took place weeks later than it actually did).

I think it went down like this:

After the Rams Game:

PFT Editor: Hey did you see that Edge got Benched.
PFT Writer: Yep
PFT Editor: I want you to come up with a story about Edge if he continues to ride the pine
PFT Writer: No Problem. I've already got something in mind.
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I love that site. They are the enquirer of the NFL - a "rumor" site that is accurate about stories more often than not. They don't appear to suck up to anyone or any team like most of the mainstream media has to.
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