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Old June 20th, 2006, 12:39 PM   #16
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Is there any point in getting the HD DVR if you don't have an HD tv? Not savvy enough (or wealthy) with this yet to know the answer.
No, the HD DVR is used for recording the HD over the air and satellite channels. Everybody should have an HDTV, in my opinion, as the programming is finally becoming widespread on all networks and sporting events. I bought my first HDTV in 1999 and I watched the Super Bowl in 2000, and then not again until 2002. Not much else was in HD. Now everthing just about is.
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Old June 20th, 2006, 01:11 PM   #17
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DirecTV is dropping Tivo in favor of their own DVR technology, except that they will still charge you monthly a monthly rate. That would result in less money sent on to Tivo.

The replacement for the HR10-250 is coming out this summer and supports the new 5 LNB (satellite) and MPEG-4 standards. Buying a HR10-250 still isn't a bad idea (I bought one a year ago) because when they convert your market to MPEG-4, you get free swapped hardware which matches what you current have -- thus the replacement for the HR10-250 will be swapped for the older HR10-250 for no cost.
what if you already have the 5 LNB dish? - do you know if the HR10-250 is compatable with the 5 LNB (seems like it would have at most limited compatability) and if so, will they be inclined to swap it out when the new equipment arrives
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Old June 20th, 2006, 01:14 PM   #18
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I've been a long time Sunday Ticket subscriber, but haven't had HD until this year. I intend to call DirecTv and complain, so that I can get the "SuperFan" package.

Question for those out there with HD and Sunday Ticket: How many games are broadcast in HD with the Sunday ticket?

As an aside, it really burns me that they'd include the HD games in a seperate tier. I pay for both the Sunday Ticket and an HD package. For them to turn and around and say "Oh you wanted sunday ticket and HD? You have to pay a third time.....
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Old June 20th, 2006, 01:26 PM   #19
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Virtually every game on Fox shows up in HD. During weeks when there are 7 games on Fox, one is usually in SD but is still shown in widescreen format. Sadly, at least up to now, when they have to put one game in SD, the Cardinals usually get hosed.

CBS was up to three games per week last year.

All primetime games are in HD. I'm assuming the NFL Network coverage will be in HD as well.
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Old June 20th, 2006, 01:36 PM   #20
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what if you already have the 5 LNB dish? - do you know if the HR10-250 is compatable with the 5 LNB (seems like it would have at most limited compatability) and if so, will they be inclined to swap it out when the new equipment arrives
HR10-250 MAY be compatible, but it was originally designed for the 3 LNB dish -- 101, 110, and 119 positions. The new 5 LNB dish was designed for use with the new MPEG-4 transmissions from the two other orbital spots.
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Old June 20th, 2006, 01:42 PM   #21
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Virtually every game on Fox shows up in HD. During weeks when there are 7 games on Fox, one is usually in SD but is still shown in widescreen format. Sadly, at least up to now, when they have to put one game in SD, the Cardinals usually get hosed.

CBS was up to three games per week last year.

All primetime games are in HD. I'm assuming the NFL Network coverage will be in HD as well.
Correct. The HD Sunday Ticket basically allows you to pick between the various HD games on at the same time. Regular over-the-air HD transmissions only allows you to watch the game that Fox or CBS chooses to show in your local market (i.e. Phoenix).
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Old June 20th, 2006, 02:16 PM   #22
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Are you sure about this? Last I checked, HD Tivo's were still going for something like $800. Are you sure it wasn't one of Directv's new standard def PVRs (the R-15) instead?
I bought the latest and most up to date meanest HD Tivo Direct recorder (200 hr) for $499 last year. That included installation and the dual antenea if you needed one. Best Buy offered the same one for $399 if you did your own install.
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Old June 20th, 2006, 02:19 PM   #23
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They are offering the HD dvr because they are crap and they need to blow them out, The HR-10 250 is going to be replaced very soon with a hopefully better unit (mid summer I was told) I am on my fourth unit, and two friends are both on their 2nd and 3rd units. The problem is most prevelent when you watch alot of HD programming, the unit is always recording the channel you watch, and these boxes struggle to record the amount of data HD throws at it, the result is audio and video stuttering that seems really minor at first.. but after a few weeks it just bugs the hell out of ya.

I finally got a high level tech out, who admitted they have been pounded to death by the issue. Also, if you end up w/ one.. just call weekly until they offer to swap it out.
Depending on your antena set-up you can watch one channel and record another. My Direct recorder has worked flawlessly. They are coming out with one without Tivo as they are developing their own type Tivo.
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Old June 20th, 2006, 02:23 PM   #24
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Here's the deal, as soon as you get a hold of a person say, "Can I please speak to the customer retention department?".

DirecTV is very interested in retaining their long term customers. So much so, that they'll throw just about anything at you if you request it. The longer than you've been a subscriber, the more clout you have.

However, when you call DirecTV, you won't be talking to customer retention, you'll be talking to some drone making minimum wage that couldn't care less whether you subscribe to the ticket, or even completely cancel your DirecTV service. Talk to customer retention and its a different story.
I have had Direct since it first came out (12-94)and the NFL ticket since it first became available. I received a Priority Customer Card some months ago and now when I call I never have to wait. After my call they always say thank you for being a Priority Customer and say my name. They must know who is on the line. I do not know if everyone received such a card but it really works.
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Old June 20th, 2006, 02:32 PM   #25
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HR10-250 MAY be compatible, but it was originally designed for the 3 LNB dish -- 101, 110, and 119 positions. The new 5 LNB dish was designed for use with the new MPEG-4 transmissions from the two other orbital spots.
a fountain of knowledge - i'm liking the 5 LNB dish - just started getting locals in HD a few weeks ago - good stuff
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So, I have a DVR set up with SD and have been a Sunday Ticket suscriber for years. I can call customer retention and get a free HD DVR? I have a HD compatible big screen but never have had HD.
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DirecTV is dropping Tivo in favor of their own DVR technology, except that they will still charge you monthly a monthly rate. That would result in less money sent on to Tivo.

The replacement for the HR10-250 is coming out this summer and supports the new 5 LNB (satellite) and MPEG-4 standards. Buying a HR10-250 still isn't a bad idea (I bought one a year ago) because when they convert your market to MPEG-4, you get free swapped hardware which matches what you current have -- thus the replacement for the HR10-250 will be swapped for the older HR10-250 for no cost.
That's what they told me when I got my H-10. I said, "I know the MPEG-4 reciever will be coming out, will I need to buy it again???" "No sir, we will just swap it out." Well, MPEG4 (not the DVR) is available now I when I called they said that it would cost me $100 to swap it out and that I would be renting theequipment, and that I would have to give them my H10. So basically they lied to me. So I'll keep the H10 for now since the only difference (I think) is that with teh new MPEG4 you get local HD over the dish.
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That's what they told me when I got my H-10. I said, "I know the MPEG-4 reciever will be coming out, will I need to buy it again???" "No sir, we will just swap it out." Well, MPEG4 (not the DVR) is available now I when I called they said that it would cost me $100 to swap it out and that I would be renting theequipment, and that I would have to give them my H10. So basically they lied to me. So I'll keep the H10 for now since the only difference (I think) is that with teh new MPEG4 you get local HD over the dish.
The things about the migration:

1. Eventually EVERYBODY will be moved to MPEG-4.
2. Right now, the only services available only on MPEG-4 are the local HD channels. I received those via over-the-air antenna so I have no reason to change.

I do know that they like to charge fees for some guy to show up to your house and reconnect equipment for you. That may be what the $100 is for. Some kind of changeover fee.


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Old June 20th, 2006, 05:11 PM   #29
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Scored my complementary HD recorder!

guy's coming out fri to set up the dish up so that it gets the HD signals.

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Old June 20th, 2006, 05:16 PM   #30
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actually with the new equipment you can lease it from them or buy it outright - to buy outright is very expensive - the lease fee is a one time charge, the only catch is you must return the equipment to the center if you no longer use the service
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