alot has been written

jstadvl · November 1st, 2006, 05:02 PM

by pros and then by us, and I think "us" do a better job of analyzing our team. We're half way through and the teams we thought were beatable. before the ship got her list, are the same teams. An advantage for us is they're looking at us as the same old Cards, but we're not. Even the cat on PTI said we were a major suprise. I don't think anyone expected us to be where we are. Why can't we right the ship the second half? Everyone will be healthy, the line will have had three weeks to get used to each other. The last game was surely edge';s best run wise.I just don't see us as quitters. We're not firing Green which is actually a good thing. It says wer'e staying the course, everyone is still on board, and we're not just going to throw money at someone for nothing.
I can see us pulling out an 8-8 season. "IMpossible is nothing".
Realiastically look at what wev'e got, we know we can beat SF, St. L.. hell we damn near, and should've handed the bears their first defeat. We're not that bad. It appears the snow ball effect takes over on us. One thing goes awry and we all seem to say "hear we go again". and let more of the same take place. Call a TO(time out) right away and put the brakes on it.
Tell me some of you are with mne on this.
Last, I honestly think every player should be at the complex, everyday, doing everything, down to the tiniest detail, over and over until it's still not done yet.
Our problem is execution. Not talent, game planning, scheming, just plain old execution.
Sorry for running my mouth.

JeffGollin · November 1st, 2006, 05:37 PM

The Bye Week feature article on the official Cardinal site quotes DG as beginning to review all the things that have occurred during the first 8 weeks to possibly uncover things we can be doing better and also things we're good at that we haven't emphasized enough.

Which raises the question in my mind: "Shouldn't this process be ongoing from week to week? Or is it that the team is so absorbed in preparing for the next game that it simply doesn't have time to "scout itself."

If, in fact, this is the case, a novel idea might be for the Bidwills to hire one or two more staffers who do nothing else but analyze strengths and weaknesses - player by player - with the intent of devoting a portion of time each week toward correcting some of the main flaws.

Maybe this is already being done, but - reading between the lines of DG's comments - it didn't sound as if it was.

jstadvl · November 1st, 2006, 06:24 PM

I agree. I don't understand why it wouldn't be an ongoing process.
I think the bye week will help alot.
Whatevber we do, it has to equate to a win next week.

AZCB34 · November 1st, 2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffGollin

The Bye Week feature article on the official Cardinal site quotes DG as beginning to review all the things that have occurred during the first 8 weeks to possibly uncover things we can be doing better and also things we're good at that we haven't emphasized enough.

Which raises the question in my mind: "Shouldn't this process be ongoing from week to week? Or is it that the team is so absorbed in preparing for the next game that it simply doesn't have time to "scout itself."

If, in fact, this is the case, a novel idea might be for the Bidwills to hire one or two more staffers who do nothing else but analyze strengths and weaknesses - player by player - with the intent of devoting a portion of time each week toward correcting some of the main flaws.

Maybe this is already being done, but - reading between the lines of DG's comments - it didn't sound as if it was.

You would think that each week when they review the previous game's tape, they would be in full analyzation mode to figure out what they were doing right and worng. It could be Denny is trying to see if there is anything they missed. Given what I think is a serious deficiency in gameplanning and execution, I would be willing to believe they don't look into things at all until the bye week as Denny's comments suggest.

nidan · November 1st, 2006, 07:06 PM

I think the problem is that usually there is vert little time in the week.

With a bye they have time to review

BigRedArk · November 1st, 2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffGollin

The Bye Week feature article on the official Cardinal site quotes DG as beginning to review all the things that have occurred during the first 8 weeks to possibly uncover things we can be doing better and also things we're good at that we haven't emphasized enough.

I hope DG uncovers that he should have never taken over the playcalling from Rowen in the Bears game and then deciding to play not to lose. No more of that please DG. That is if we ever see a 20 point lead ever again this season!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shane · November 2nd, 2006, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nidan

I think the problem is that usually there is vert little time in the week.

With a bye they have time to review

If a team has a coaching staff that has any clue about what the hell they are doing would do this on a weekly basis. They wouldnt have to wait until a bye week. hell Coaches look and see what they are doing wrong as the game goes along. Much less making an excuse that you dont have the time to do it on a week to week basis.

BEERZ · November 2nd, 2006, 04:48 AM

This sounds like Denny might make an attempt, at trying something, completely outlandish, and out of the ordinary, a completely new idea.

Coaching!

nidan · November 2nd, 2006, 07:51 AM

Yes Shane I know that ...

I was answering the question as to why the bye week was any different, they have more time.

Take it out on them not me

MadCardDisease · November 2nd, 2006, 08:48 AM

This team needs a win right out of the gate to get their confidense back. If they can regain some confidense and eliminate the mistakes then yes I think they could string together a nice win streak or two.

I guess the big question is, can they eliminate the mistakes with the current coaching staff? In three years we haven't seen an improvement and I'm not sure with just a Bye week off it can be fixed.

nidan · November 2nd, 2006, 08:54 AM

Me either

CaptTurbo · November 2nd, 2006, 08:59 AM

We will be the dolphins of last year. Win 6 in a row to close out the season. Hype machine goes crazy, keeps Green and go 6-10 next year. ugh

Redheart · November 2nd, 2006, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffGollin

If, in fact, this is the case, a novel idea might be for the Bidwills to hire one or two more staffers who do nothing else but analyze strengths and weaknesses - player by player - with the intent of devoting a portion of time each week toward correcting some of the main flaws.

This is what Rowen is working on. IMO.

slanidrac16 · November 2nd, 2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jstadvl

by pros and then by us, and I think "us" do a better job of analyzing our team. We're half way through and the teams we thought were beatable. before the ship got her list, are the same teams. An advantage for us is they're looking at us as the same old Cards, but we're not. Even the cat on PTI said we were a major suprise. I don't think anyone expected us to be where we are. Why can't we right the ship the second half? Everyone will be healthy, the line will have had three weeks to get used to each other. The last game was surely edge';s best run wise.I just don't see us as quitters. We're not firing Green which is actually a good thing. It says wer'e staying the course, everyone is still on board, and we're not just going to throw money at someone for nothing.
I can see us pulling out an 8-8 season. "IMpossible is nothing".
Realiastically look at what wev'e got, we know we can beat SF, St. L.. hell we damn near, and should've handed the bears their first defeat. We're not that bad. It appears the snow ball effect takes over on us. One thing goes awry and we all seem to say "hear we go again". and let more of the same take place. Call a TO(time out) right away and put the brakes on it.
Tell me some of you are with mne on this.
Last, I honestly think every player should be at the complex, everyday, doing everything, down to the tiniest detail, over and over until it's still not done yet.
Our problem is execution. Not talent, game planning, scheming, just plain old execution.
Sorry for running my mouth.

Sorry Bud, but if you don't think game planning and scheme hasn't played a major role in this years disaster, I have to say you are flat out wrong. If that were the case then you or I could step in and be the OC right now. No doubt execution is essential for even the best of schemes to succeed, but bad game planning and a bad scheme will not be saved by merely executing.

Russ Smith · November 2nd, 2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Redheart

This is what Rowen is working on. IMO.

That's actually a good use, Rowen is probably pissed off so he's not going to sugarcoat his evaluations at all.

I wish they'd start by having him critique the coaching staff sort of a midyear review if you will.