January 12th, 2011, 05:38 PM
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A different opinion on Gabbert
In the interest of providing both sides of the story:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...bert-hype.html
Good comprehensive scouting report on Gabbert
The cliff notes version is this: he is just luke warm on Gabbert
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January 12th, 2011, 06:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by football karma
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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/wes-bunting.html
He completed a football GM and scouting course from Sports Management Worldwide, studying under Marc Trestman and Russ Lande,
Was this a paid seminar thingy?
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January 12th, 2011, 06:10 PM
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This assesment is pretty good;
The top QB right now. Gabbert is the QB prospect who has generated the most momentum for being the top passer taken with Luck out of the mix. Though Gabbert played in the ever-more-prevalent spread offense at Missouri, NFL scouts do not seem to penalize him for it, as they have other recent spread quarterbacks entering the league. It might have something to do with him being about 6-4, 235, with a big arm.
"The thing that sticks out to me is that he's a lot more athletic than you think he is,'' the NFC scout said. "He's like Ben Roethlisberger and Josh Freeman, in that he's a guy who can extend the play even when he's got guys hanging off him. That's the trait that makes those guys so special. They're so big and they can shake guys off. He's not as strong as Roethlisberger and Freeman, but he has some of the same skills.''
Gabbert also gets high marks for largely carrying his team's offense, despite the lack of other great skills players. He scores well too in terms of his work ethic and football savvy.
"Missouri's spread offense isn't like Florida's,'' the scout said. "They don't have great athletes all around him and it's not a simple spread like in some places. He's doing it all on his own. You can see him scanning through his progressions, reading the field, and he has to move, extend the play, and create. And he's a mature kid and will put in the work. I could see him going near the top, in that third, fourth or fifth range.''
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1AshC315B
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...aft/index.html
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January 12th, 2011, 06:14 PM
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Interestingly -- if you click around NFP "scouting department" section -- he also reviews Cam Newton, and proclaims him physically to be a top 10 pick, but would need to satisfy himself what Cam is all about off the field
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January 12th, 2011, 06:17 PM
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There is no difference between Skelton and Gabbert aside from the unwarranted hype.
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January 12th, 2011, 06:18 PM
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Wes Bunting is a total tool.
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January 12th, 2011, 06:20 PM
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Honestly if I was going to point out Blaine's weaknesses I'd say he's not ready to read NFL defenses at all.
Obviously he dosen't have much if any experience with drop back passing either.
His footwork is a little off now and then and he locks on to WR's from time to time.
I think he has a lot of things to learn, like almost everyone else that's new to the NFL.
But almost everything about him that's bad is bad because he's green and needs to learn and nothing about him to me is anything but a coachable problem.
While on the plus side many things you can't coach he has built in.
I'd be thrilled with him and Skelton as our QB's but then we'd lose a lot of game until one of them learned more.
I think a lot of Skelton too.
We still need a vet though and I don't think so much of Skelton I would pass up on a really good QB in the draft I might never have another shot at getting for years in terms of talent levels.
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Last edited by conraddobler; January 12th, 2011 at 06:26 PM.
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January 12th, 2011, 06:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarnerHOF
There is no difference between Skelton and Gabbert aside from the unwarranted hype.
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Skelton has TDs and wins and a job in the NFL.
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January 12th, 2011, 07:51 PM
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All those flaws he mentions are easily fixable with coaching. I know Bunting was very high on Skelton last year. For some reason I don't like Bunting. He comes across to me as a guy who tries to throw out some scoutong terms to make himself sound smarter. That may not be the case but that what it seems like to me.
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January 12th, 2011, 08:24 PM
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The issue that I have with Gabbert is that I just don't see him as worthy of the #5 pick. He is a project/
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January 12th, 2011, 09:26 PM
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Hey fudge packers..go for 2 ;)
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The issue that I have with Gabbert is that he was nowhere near a top QB prospect and, after the regular season was over, began to gain momentum.
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January 12th, 2011, 10:59 PM
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The bottom line is none of us really know anything about scouting a QB and none of us have put in the time and broken down every one of his games.
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January 13th, 2011, 04:09 AM
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Bottom line it sounds to me that there is no top ten prospect QB to be had this draft.
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January 13th, 2011, 04:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cardpa
Bottom line it sounds to me that there is no top ten prospect QB to be had this draft.
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Bingo, but someone will force the pick because of desperate need. The NFL needs about 10 new QBs. Think about the number of teams in need of a QB to, at least , develop, let alone play this year. Slim pickings.
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January 13th, 2011, 05:17 AM
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Footballoutsiders basically calls him the best of a crappy bunch of prospects.
Which is why he and a few others will be way over valued, especially as Wally alludes to in his post in a currently QB starved NFL.
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