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2 slices of toasted bread, rubbed with garlic and drizzled with fine olive oil.
6 effin bucks! Now, it was delicious, and you do indeed pay for the fact that the restaurant you patronize uses organic cleaning products, whose kitchen grease is converted to biofuel, whose power comes from renewable sources and whose food can be be traced to the farmer who raised/slaughtered/grew it.
Thats the way I like to eat. I felt good about everything I ate yeaterday. It was delicious, and I got loaded to boot on several pints of tasty IPA.
HOWEVER, Even a tub thumper like me has a breaking point. Frankly, I dont earn enough to pay 6 bucks for 2 pieces of bread. Im angry that eating the best food is reserved only for those in the highest of income brackets.
When is the price for taking care of this planet and of your body going to come down? Until it does, I just cant expect my shouting from the mountaintops to mean ****. Who can afford to do the right thing?????
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2 slices of toasted bread, rubbed with garlic and drizzled with fine olive oil.
6 effin bucks! Now, it was delicious, and you do indeed pay for the fact that the restaurant you patronize uses organic cleaning products, whose kitchen grease is converted to biofuel, whose power comes from renewable sources and whose food can be be traced to the farmer who raised/slaughtered/grew it.
Thats the way I like to eat. I felt good about everything I ate yeaterday. It was delicious, and I got loaded to boot on several pints of tasty IPA.
HOWEVER, Even a tub thumper like me has a breaking point. Frankly, I dont earn enough to pay 6 bucks for 2 pieces of bread. Im angry that eating the best food is reserved only for those in the highest of income brackets.
When is the price for taking care of this planet and of your body going to come down? Until it does, I just cant expect my shouting from the mountaintops to mean ****. Who can afford to do the right thing?????
Even if I could. I don't know that I would. My ex's medical condition forces her to shop at Spouts and AJ's etc. She spends $400 a month on food, for herself.
I have no problem spending the money on food. I drop almost 200 a week on groceries for my family (3 of us, and the little one dont each much, yet! but fwiw, the milk is 7 bucks a gallon!). Its the most important thing you can budget for after paying your rent/mortgage and bills. Theres nothing more important than eating food that I know is high quality. What bugs me is how expensive it is to do that. If everyone else joined in, and eating based on provenance (my term for it, and I mean knowing where your food comes from and demanding that those who manufacture it do so with respect for the land, the animals, and the consumer) became the standard, rather than viewed as some cultish hippy thing, the cost would invariably come down. But its just not going to happen until more people start demanding better quality food.
Im curious, if you could, why in god's name wouldnt you? I guess I just cant understand the mentality of settling for garbage on principle. What kind of principles are those???
I have no problem spending the money on food. I drop almost 200 a week on groceries for my family (3 of us, and the little one dont each much, yet! but fwiw, the milk is 7 bucks a gallon!). Its the most important thing you can budget for after paying your rent/mortgage and bills. Theres nothing more important than eating food that I know is high quality. What bugs me is how expensive it is to do that. If everyone else joined in, and eating based on provenance (my term for it, and I mean knowing where your food comes from and demanding that those who manufacture it do so with respect for the land, the animals, and the consumer) became the standard, rather than viewed as some cultish hippy thing, the cost would invariably come down. But its just not going to happen until more people start demanding better quality food.
Im curious, if you could, why in god's name wouldnt you? I guess I just cant understand the mentality of settling for garbage on principle. What kind of principles are those???
If garbage tastes good, it isn't garbage IMO. If you won't eat it, because it takes like crap, there is no point.
So taste is the ONLY issue with your food choices???? REALLY???
Sounds like to me, your "tastes good" theory is based on a learned pattern of behavior. How anyone could drink milk from a commercial dairy, after drinking milk form cows who roamed free and ate a grass only diet is beyond me. There is no comparison in taste.
How someone could eat store bought burger tubes at 1.99/lb after trying an 80/20 blend of corn fed sirloin at 3.99/lb is beyond me. There is no comparison in taste.
Me thinks you are confusing taste and cost. Or maybe youre assigning a value to what tastes good. 7 dollar a gallon milk might not taste good to you... cause it cost 7 bucks??? I dont know. Its all opinion of course. Ive certainly spent the better part of my life (I only started being so picky about my food in the last 3 years or so) eating cheap commercially raised meat, drinking milk from commercial dairies, feed lot chickens and pigs. Non organic vegetables, processed premade and packaged foods. The works.
Its a complete re wire of your brain to break out of that. It takes time. But dont tell me you wouldnt do it cause "garbage tastes good" without telling me youve actually compared the differences. That makes no sense. Im more likely to accept your opinion if you simply stated, I dont care what kind of food I eat. Thats more than likely the case, than the "it tastes good" argument.
I agree with Schutd on this one. There is an incredible difference in taste between buying produce and meats that are not raised by agri-business. When the food is allowed to grow naturally, and is not encouraged with chemicals and hormones, the difference in flavor is significant. Agri-business tends to shorten the growth cycle which does not allow flavors to develop. They also breed more for appearance than flavor. I buy most of my produce from a place that sources locally...it may not be the prettiest produce, but the taste is considerably better. Carrots and zuchinni that are actually sweet.
However, I do not find it to that much more expensive. If anything I find my produce to be considerably cheaper when I buy it at Dan's (who sources locally from farms close to the Bay Area) or Sprout's in AZ. The downside is I can't get strawberries out of season, but what is in season tends to be cheaper than what I find at Safeway or Lucky's.
Also, you can tell the difference in meat products. I find pork from the supermarkets to be dry and bland and am not a huge fan of it. But I pay an extra dollar a pound from a meat market that sources from a ranch up north then the meat is much tastier and juicier....and now I really enjoy having pork chops for dinner and is worth the extra buck or two.
If the meat and produce are of good quality...then you can make a great meal out of just the basics and not spend as much doctoring up the bland stuff with extra junk and costs.
So taste is the ONLY issue with your food choices???? REALLY???
Sounds like to me, your "tastes good" theory is based on a learned pattern of behavior. How anyone could drink milk from a commercial dairy, after drinking milk form cows who roamed free and ate a grass only diet is beyond me. There is no comparison in taste.
How someone could eat store bought burger tubes at 1.99/lb after trying an 80/20 blend of corn fed sirloin at 3.99/lb is beyond me. There is no comparison in taste.
Me thinks you are confusing taste and cost. Or maybe youre assigning a value to what tastes good. 7 dollar a gallon milk might not taste good to you... cause it cost 7 bucks??? I dont know. Its all opinion of course. Ive certainly spent the better part of my life (I only started being so picky about my food in the last 3 years or so) eating cheap commercially raised meat, drinking milk from commercial dairies, feed lot chickens and pigs. Non organic vegetables, processed premade and packaged foods. The works.
Its a complete re wire of your brain to break out of that. It takes time. But dont tell me you wouldnt do it cause "garbage tastes good" without telling me youve actually compared the differences. That makes no sense. Im more likely to accept your opinion if you simply stated, I dont care what kind of food I eat. Thats more than likely the case, than the "it tastes good" argument.
Taste is a very large consideration in what I eat.
As a society we've de-valued food. What we pay for and eat now is a result of this devaluation: it's mostly chemicals and it's eaten on the run as opposed to communally. No wonder people don't want to pay more.
Used to be that people paid a much higher percentage of their wages to go to food than we do now. But then, it used to be that food was good for you and meals were a way families and friends stayed together.
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As a society we've de-valued food. What we pay for and eat now is a result of this devaluation: it's mostly chemicals and it's eaten on the run as opposed to communally. No wonder people don't want to pay more.
Used to be that people paid a much higher percentage of their wages to go to food than we do now. But then, it used to be that food was good for you and meals were a way families and friends stayed together.
I have shopped at Whole foods and Trader Joes. I have bought organic veggies, dairy, fruit, meat, and nuts. You know what they all taste like to me? Just like the stuff that is about 1/3 of the cost and can be bought at any grocery chain in America.
Schut you are the one that has been programmed to buy into the hype. JMHO. BTW that beer or wine you were drinking above> Are you certain all the hops and barley or grapes or whetever was produced organically?
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I have shopped at Whole foods and Trader Joes. I have bought organic veggies, dairy, fruit, meat, and nuts. You know what they all taste like to me? Just like the stuff that is about 1/3 of the cost and can be bought at any grocery chain in America.
Maybe it tastes the same to you, but I promise you it's WAY better for you.
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eh, some of us don't have enhanced palates like you do, schutd. It still tastes good to me. Yes, the cost is a big issue regarding taste for me. Sure, it tastes good, but not worth the cost (to me). Corn is corn
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