The Official High-Definition TV thread - Page 17

abomb · June 12th, 2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chandler Mike

Well, considering they run off hard drives...I don't see how they can increase it unless they change the way they compress it I guess.

Yeah, that is what I am guessing too. I wonder how much increase we will see. I also wonder if there will be any upgrades to the interface or functionality.

I love my Cox HD, but miss some of the bells of TiVo.

phxrising · June 13th, 2006, 11:05 AM

Oh and I read the whole thread, just in case.

Hey I’m looking at getting a 42” plasma EDTV, it has the native 480 resolution.
480 I understand is what DVD play at and most of your HD channels on cable are so compression should be limited.
It’s running around $1800.
**Anyone have any input as to this being a poor choice or not.

1)Is it worth giving up Plasma and going DLP to get the 720?
2)What about models I see with just one NTSC/ATSC tuner, not both should I be concerned?
3) input or outputs that are MUST haves?

Other things I’m looking at are Sony grand wega or DLP

Some examples I’ve been looking at.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7711167&type=product&id=11380864 37384

http://www.uecweb.com/index.php?p=product&id=243&parent=4

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7731564&type=product&id=11403924 18573

Thanks for any input or help

dreamcastrocks · June 13th, 2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by phxrising

Oh and I read the whole thread, just in case.

Hey I’m looking at getting a 42” plasma EDTV, it has the native 480 resolution.
480 I understand is what DVD play at and most of your HD channels on cable are so compression should be limited.
It’s running around $1800.
**Anyone have any input as to this being a poor choice or not.

1)Is it worth giving up Plasma and going DLP to get the 720?
2)What about models I see with just one NTSC/ATSC tuner, not both should I be concerned?
3) input or outputs that are MUST haves?

Other things I’m looking at are Sony grand wega or DLP

Some examples I’ve been looking at.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7711167&type=product&id=11380864 37384

http://www.uecweb.com/index.php?p=product&id=243&parent=4

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7731564&type=product&id=11403924 18573

Thanks for any input or help

If you go DLP, you can get 52" or even higher for the same price. Personally, for $1800, you could do a lot better. Do not pay $1800 for a EDTV. PERIOD! If you are set on getting plasma though, that is not the bad price.

I have seen last year's 62" Mitsubishi DLP TV (720) for $1999.

I would decide on whether you need plasma. DLP or LCD will most likely be a major upgrade to what you are already using. You get the least bang for your buck with plasma, IMO.

As far as inputs, I would make sure that the TV has at least one HDMI output, or at least a DVI. HDMI will most likely become the new standard, but you can buy DVI - HDMI conversion cables.

Chandler Mike · June 13th, 2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

If you go DLP, you can get 52" or even higher for the same price. Personally, for $1800, you could do a lot better. Do not pay $1800 for a EDTV. PERIOD! If you are set on getting plasma though, that is not the bad price.

I have seen last year's 62" Mitsubishi DLP TV (720) for $1999.

I would decide on whether you need plasma. DLP or LCD will most likely be a major upgrade to what you are already using. You get the least bang for your buck with plasma, IMO.

As far as inputs, I would make sure that the TV has at least one HDMI output, or at least a DVI. HDMI will most likely become the new standard, but you can buy DVI - HDMI conversion cables.

Agreed, if you buy an EDTV you may as well kick yourself in the nuts while you're at it

Buy a Sony Rear Projection LCD, or a Mitsubishi DLP and you will be thrilled.

ArizonaSportsFan · July 5th, 2006, 09:51 PM

Just bought a Samsung 50" DLP set along with an Onkyo receiver and an Infiniti 5.1 speaker setup. It has the 1080p engine, and while not much besides Blu-Ray can output 1080p, I am ready for the PS3 to sit next to my XBOX 360 and its Blu-Ray upgrade (later this year, I believe). The picture is very nice. Sony had a couple of 1080p sets but they were too expensive and too big.

For the fellow (Zona90) asking about LG, they are the manufacturer of many things Korean. For instance, I believe that some of Samsung's stuff is manufactured by LG. I could be wrong but that info was from a Korean co-worker of mine. They recently started branding their stuff as their own. I would trust LG.

Donald · July 6th, 2006, 12:12 AM

On HD, Veronica Mars looks hot as hell. Even Shane H agrees.

dreamcastrocks · July 6th, 2006, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by D-Dogg

On HD, Veronica Mars looks hot as hell. Even Shane H agrees.

How anyone could not think that she is not at least cute is beyond me.

ArizonaSportsFan · July 6th, 2006, 09:12 AM

A tech question here. Since my TV will convert everything to 1080p, will that make standard TV look like complete crap, or just fuzzy? And is it worth it to get a DVD player which converts into 1080i if my TV is going to convert it to 1080p anyways? Would the DVD player (a Sony) do a better job than the TV (a Samsung), which would just then change the display method (from interlaced to progressive)? Thanks for listening. I haven't even got the TV out of the box yet and I am nervous that things won't look good. Everything looks good in the store since they are feeding the sets the highest resolution feed possible.

dreamcastrocks · July 6th, 2006, 10:08 AM

Standard TV will most likely look noticably worse than what it used to. I have the same problem. I actually use two outputs, the regular composite for my standard TV, and HDMI for the HD. I actually saw better results (or worse, depending on how you look at it) with the composite vs. S-Video.

If you a semi nice DVD player, the dvd player usually does a better job of interlacing than the TV.

ArizonaSportsFan · July 6th, 2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

Standard TV will most likely look noticably worse than what it used to. I have the same problem. I actually use two outputs, the regular composite for my standard TV, and HDMI for the HD. I actually saw better results (or worse, depending on how you look at it) with the composite vs. S-Video.

Thanks. Outputs from what, your cable/satellite box?

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

If you a semi nice DVD player, the dvd player usually does a better job of interlacing than the TV.

In this case the TV takes it to 1080 progressive, so I am wondering if it is better to go 480p->1080i->1080p or 480p->1080p.

dreamcastrocks · July 6th, 2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ArizonaSportsFan

Thanks. Outputs from what, your cable/satellite box?

In this case the TV takes it to 1080 progressive, so I am wondering if it is better to go 480p->1080i->1080p or 480p->1080p.

Cable box.

It still depends on your TV's descaler, unless you are using an upconverting DVD player.

Lefty · July 6th, 2006, 12:34 PM

I was in Best Buy the other day and was pretty impressed with the picture quality on the flatscreen tv's by LG. Does anyone own a tv by LG, and if so, are you happy with the quality?

ArizonaSportsFan · July 6th, 2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

Cable box.

It still depends on your TV's descaler, unless you are using an upconverting DVD player.

And that is what I am wondering, if the TV's upconverter is better than an upconverter in a DVD player. I just don't have an upconverting DVD player (yet) to test, so I was wondering if anyone had performed a subjective test.

dreamcastrocks · July 6th, 2006, 02:41 PM

I do not have an upconverting DVD player either (not yet). You traditionally are much better off with the DVD player doing the scaling, rather than your TV.

ArizonaSportsFan · July 6th, 2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

I do not have an upconverting DVD player either (not yet). You traditionally are much better off with the DVD player doing the scaling, rather than your TV.

I will most likely end up getting one to bridge the gap to HDDVD and/or BluRay (someone please win already!). The upconverters normally use HDMI (at least the ones that I have seen) output to support the 720p+, so I will have to run HDMI from the player to the TV with optical audio back out of the TV to the receiver (no HDMI on my receiver). Hopefully that will sync okay.