Shane H

Im not so sure that means he is a millionaire.

But it could mean he knows that people would assume he is and vote him off because of it.

Hogeboom was no superstar when he was in football. A bad investment here or there and he could be just your average middle class shmoe.

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swd1974

after 11 years????


11 years as a 3rd string QB would still mean he made 11+ million.

He started quite a few years. Id bet he made over 15 mil in his career.

Thats more than 1 or 2 bad investments.

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Pariah

Safe money's on millionaire, I bet.

He probably never made the league minimum, so his salary from the "golden days" was a pretty penny, and now he's a real estate developer, many of whom are millionaires without having an NFL QB's nest egg.

But, you're right. Just because he's hiding his identity doesn't mean he's a millionaire. Even the perception of "ex-nfl qb" could get him voted off because people will think "he's already made his money," even if he's currently penniless.

I'm rooting for Hogeboom, though. I also like the way that nurse has handled herself (and her team) so far.

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Shane H

Absolutely not. Back when he played the minimum salary may have been what maybe 180,000? So to say he made 11-15 million is a gross overexaggeration IMO. Heck did he even start more than 1 season in the league?

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swd1974

Backup QB's do not make the league minimum. How much is McCown making?

| 1980 dal | 2 | 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 | 0 0 0 |
| 1981 dal | 1 | 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 | 0 0 0 |
| 1982 dal | 4 | 3 8 37.5 45 5.6 0 1 | 3 0 0 |
| 1983 dal | 6 | 11 17 64.7 161 9.5 1 1 | 6 -10 0 |
| 1984 dal | 16 | 195 367 53.1 2366 6.4 7 14 | 15 19 0 |
| 1985 dal | 16 | 70 126 55.6 978 7.8 5 7 | 8 48 1 |
| 1986 ind | 5 | 85 144 59.0 1154 8.0 6 6 | 10 20 1 |
| 1987 ind | 6 | 99 168 58.9 1145 6.8 9 5 | 3 3 0 |
| 1988 ind | 9 | 76 131 58.0 996 7.6 7 7 | 11 -8 1 |
| 1989 pho | 14 | 204 364 56.0 2591 7.1 14 19 | 27 89 1 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| TOTAL | 79 | 743 1325 56.1 9436 7.1 49 60 | 83 161 4

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Shane H

Many QBs do though however. McCow was in the league for 4 years before he finally started making over a million dollars. Also you cant compare what a back-up QB makes as compared to one that played int he 1980's.

Just assuming this guy is rich is plain silly. By your stats he never started a full season.

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swd1974

Your assumign he isnt tich which is sillier?

Id have to guess as well, without doing major research he started 3 years but possibly injuries prevented quite a bit? Dont know dont care.

Im sure he got backup pay. While your right about the 80's being a bit different we arent talking the 60's.

So who is sillier? Me assuming he is rich or you assuming he isnt? Id be willing to bet he is.

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Shane H

Im not assuming he isnt. Show me where I assumed he isnt? Im just saying to assume he is would be silly considering the career he had and his probable pay scale based on it.

There have been many an NFL stars who made a whole lot more than him and are now broke.

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swd1974

Interesting tidbit below.

We wont get into how real estate made a fortune the last 3 years


"Gary Hogeboom (1980-1985) is a real estate developer in Grand Rapids, Michigan." - Brian D. Sweany, Texas Monthly
1985-1985 - Cowboys quarterback, which got him attention:
"Gary Hogeboom: Hogeboom was the opening day starter in 1984. To date, Gary Hogeboom and Steve Pelleur are the only QBs to have just one opening day start. Hogeboom got the nod over Danny White because of pressure on the Cowboys to shake the NFC Championship game losses. Hogeboom had taken over for an injured Danny White during the 1983 NFC Championship game and played well enough to warrant more opportunities. He led the Cowboys to a victory on opening day in 1984 and had a very nice game. Hogeboom was injured before the 1984 season was over and Danny White once again took the reigns. Danny White played much better than Hogeboom during the 1984 season and won his starting job back. To avoid even more controversy, Hogeboom was traded to the Colts after the 1985 season." - CowboyCards.com

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Russ Smith

Lucy pegged it before the show started, I think she heard it somewhere but she's denying it.

I bet they're rethinking that first challenge though, 11 mile hike in that environement without adequate water and electrolytes is not challenging, it's a serious health risk.

When his eyes rolled back in his head I'm sure the Survivor people were thinking this is great Tv, but I sure hope they realize now you can't take average people and put them in such grueling situations.

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Russ Smith

not when he played though, 1980-89, salaries were a lot lower then. 3rd stringers don't make a million a year now at QB typically, they sure didn't then. He started 2 years I'm sure he made more in the last 2-3 years of his career than in the first 5-6.

Isn't he the ex Card QB that's quite the golfer? He's probably made some money on that or is that another ex Card?

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Russ Smith

So here's my peeve from the first show. Did you notice who the old guy Jim voted for? he tears his bicep, the nurse lady helps him out, and he goes to tribal council and writes her name down?

The only thing we could think was maybe he couldn't remember other names, but after 3 days I gotta believe he knew more names than her. Admittedly he knew he was going but of all the people to write down he picks the one who was nursing him the last day?

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Shane H

Totally agree Russ!

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jf-08

He should have done the honorable thing and eliminated himself - walking away.


If his bicep was really torn, he would not have been able to do anything, and him not doing that pissed me off.

And when he voted for her, i was even more shocked.

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Shane H

Thats what I was thinking. If he heard his bidep pop why in the hell would you want to stay? much less hope somone else gets voted off.

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