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SPOILER - Sorry about the long post, I sometimes babble
So in the South Pacific's Cook Islands our castaways have been divided into four tribes based on ethnicity with producers classifying the show as a "social experiment." So with my metaphoric lab coat on, I sat down to watch.
As a viewer who is part of a represented group, I immediately found myself rooting for "my tribe," whereas in the past I had to warm up to players over a few weeks. On one hand it's nice to get right into the game, but on the other hand you realize you've been manipulated by the show. I'm still drawn to the most interesting players, and that crosses racial boundaries. In the end, I suspect that's how the show will play out for most viewers, but since they want us to, let's break it down.
Aitu, Latino: J.P., Billy, Ozzy, Cecilia and Cristina
Right off, Ozzy and Billy make the biggest impressions, Billy mostly for his bamboo-breaking technique and Ozzy for pointing out Billy's bamboo-breaking technique. I don't think Cristina spoke during the first three days, which in Survivor editing can only mean she makes it to the final four. J.P. has a lot to say, but I don't remember any of it. Cecilia may be the player on this team.
Hiki, African-American: Rebecca, Sekou, Stephannie, Sundra, Nate
This tribe found its rhythm quickly, breaking off into two pairs, leaving Stephannie the odd one out giving her the most powerful position in the group; she also looks like a strong player. Sekou, Is just out, early leaders rarely make it to final tribal and if you're going to tout yourself as the man who makes fire, maybe you should learn to make a fire.
Puka, Asian: Cao Boi, Yul, Becky, Brad and Jenny
Cao Boi is a little out of place in his tribe. It's not his flowing salt-and-pepper locks, tattoos or old-world charm. It's that he tested the wind with the spit-on-the-finger trick. Yul, Jenny and Becky are not even having any of Cao Boi's tricks like pulling the "bad wind" out of Brad's head. Say what you will, Cao Boi cured Brad's headache. He gets props for that.
Raro, Caucasian: Jessica, Jonathan, Candice, Parvati and Adam
Everyone is really young and hard-bodied on this tribe. OK, Jonathan's a little older, but he did steal a chicken. We all saw him do it, and it got him sent to Exile Island. I wonder if the others knew Jessica freed the chickens leaving Raro with no meat at all. I'm not sure what's up with this tribe, did they build a shelter or just opt to huddle in the cuddle puddle? This could come back to haunt them later on. Like when it rains.
Jeff is really pushing the social-experiment thing. After the first Survivor challenge — a three-part fire, boat, puzzle thing that Puka won and Hiki lost — Jeff pointed out that the Hiki men took charge of choosing who would be sent to Exile Island while the Hiki women watched in silence. Two comments: 1) Jeff, you're smoother than that, and 2) I hope all the amateur sociologists out there took note. Even though he was the obvious choice for banishment, Jonathan was completely surprised that he was exiled. Hiki went off to tribal council where, in a fairly predictable move, they voted Sekou off the island.
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Jeff is really pushing the social-experiment thing. After the first Survivor challenge — a three-part fire, boat, puzzle thing that Puka won and Hiki lost — Jeff pointed out that the Hiki men took charge of choosing who would be sent to Exile Island while the Hiki women watched in silence. Two comments: 1) Jeff, you're smoother than that, and 2) I hope all the amateur sociologists out there took note. Even though he was the obvious choice for banishment, Jonathan was completely surprised that he was exiled. Hiki went off to tribal council where, in a fairly predictable move, they voted Sekou off the island.
That's why Jeff is such a great host though, he will call people out or point things out just because it appears necessary to him. I think he goes about as far as you can without influencing the outcome of games and it makes the show better especially at tribal council when he does it.
It was interesting that only the 2 guys went forward to discuss it, if I had to guess why it's because the 3 women didn't want whoever got voted to exile island to hold a grudge against them.
Taking me awhile to get into this season. I was surprised the Hispanic team resorted to throwing a competition that early in the show but it did appear that Billy was pretty lazy and when he blurts out completely out of nowhere he's in love with one of the members of the "caucasian" team you had to wonder if he's not all there? That was just bizarre they were standing next to each other after the competition, she says something like sorry you guys lost we love you guys, he says I love you too, I'm next. And then at Tribal council he tells Jeff he loves her and she loves him, very bizarre I don't know if he was bluffing trying to sway the vote or if there was something else going on, truly bizarre, Jeff could hardly contain his laughter.
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Last edited by Russ Smith; September 22nd, 2006 at 11:04 AM.
Taking me awhile to get into this season. I was surprised the Hispanic team resorted to throwing a competition that early in the show but it did appear that Billy was pretty lazy and when he blurts out completely out of nowhere he's in love with one of the members of the "caucasian" team you had to wonder if he's not all there? That was just bizarre they were standing next to each other after the competition, she says something like sorry you guys lost we love you guys, he says I love you too, I'm next. And then at Tribal council he tells Jeff he loves her and she loves him, very bizarre I don't know if he was bluffing trying to sway the vote or if there was something else going on, truly bizarre, Jeff could hardly contain his laughter.
That whole love comment thing was pretty funny. You know Jeff is going to ask that chick about it.
I think they were stupid for throwing the competition that early. You never throw a competition. He could have been their insurance card for when they did lose a challenge out right. Now if they lose again they will seriously be handicaped.
I need to learn that headache treatment that leaves a red spot on your forhead. It cracks me up everytime I see him leave that mark and the person is like I have this stupid mark but my headache is gone.
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They seem to have all their figurative duckies in a row. Yul's discovery of that hidden immunity idol was impressive even with the editing.
That was impressive I am sure the editing made it look better but the way he drew that x and then dug up the idol was pretty cool.
I think it takes me awhile to get into the show every season because at the start there's just too many people involved so you don't get "attached" to them until it's been a few weeks and there's a few less people to follow.
Amazing Race and Big Brother are the same way for me, full cast is too many people for me to care about takes a few eliminations before I really get into it.
So far I like the race element though because it's creating new dynamics.
Did anyone else rewind, so they could see what she actually said to Billy? That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen on that show.
I can't remember it exactly, but it went something like this...
Billy: "I'm the next to go. I'm on the chopping block"
the girl (sympathetic) : "ohh, well we love you."
Billy (completely serious and straight faced): "I love you too"
I laughed almost as hard as I did at the kissing scene in The Office.
Joe
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Yeah I rewound too Joe Mama was a very weird moment now that you go back and look at it. I was saying to my wife that was weird how he said it the first time, and then the council thing happened and I was cracking up. Wonder if that guy was all there? Seriously that was a little strange.
No middle-eastern group. I like Survivor and think this was a good idea. I have enjoyed the first two shows. Last season was pretty boring but this got me back to watching it. Asians are smart, he was the 2nd one on the island and he found it.
I agree Russ. She was the only hot one imo. Maybe it was my years in Catholic High School but whenever I see a hot hispanic girl I fantasize about her in plaid skirts
I think the merge was not planned. They didnt see anything of real value in splitting them up by race so they nixed it. Anyone else get that feeling?
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I agree Russ. She was the only hot one imo. Maybe it was my years in Catholic High School but whenever I see a hot hispanic girl I fantasize about her in plaid skirts
I think the merge was not planned. They didnt see anything of real value in splitting them up by race so they nixed it. Anyone else get that feeling?
I had a feeling that the Merge was coming. However I thought that they would just merge two of the tribes into one and the other two tribes into another one.
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I had a feeling that the Merge was coming. However I thought that they would just merge two of the tribes into one and the other two tribes into another one.
That's what I was expecting too, the way they did it made it tougher to maintain alliances which I'm sure was the goal.
So my question from last night, if Becky had gotten the most votes could yul have saved her with the idol? Jeff said something like if your name has the most votes and you have the idol, you can save yourself and the person with the 2nd most votes is gone. Does that mean you can't use it for someone else as Yul promised Becky he would if it came to that to save her(before he knew she was even in trouble)? Assuming he could have done it and saved her it would have resulted in the same person who went home anyways, but Yul wouldn't have the idol.
I was really trying to figure out why he told her that so early in the game, why did he think she was a key ally, or was he trying to get an in with her for an after Survivor hookup?
So my question from last night, if Becky had gotten the most votes could yul have saved her with the idol? Jeff said something like if your name has the most votes and you have the idol, you can save yourself and the person with the 2nd most votes is gone. Does that mean you can't use it for someone else as Yul promised Becky he would if it came to that to save her(before he knew she was even in trouble)? Assuming he could have done it and saved her it would have resulted in the same person who went home anyways, but Yul wouldn't have the idol.
I was really trying to figure out why he told her that so early in the game, why did he think she was a key ally, or was he trying to get an in with her for an after Survivor hookup?
I was wondering the same thing. I don't know if you can give away the idol this time around. I would think so but Jeff's comments did get me thinking about it.
They already had a pretty solid alliance so he felt very comfortable telling her.
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Last edited by MadCardDisease; September 29th, 2006 at 01:58 PM.
I like Survivor and think this was a good idea. I have enjoyed the first two shows. Last season was pretty boring but this got me back to watching it. Asians are smart, he was the 2nd one on the island and he found it. 
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