Angel

Shelly is guilty of not knowing the difference between talking a deal and having a deal. She has TALKED deal with everyone in there as far as I have heard she has not HAD a deal with anyone--not really.

Rachel did lie, she kept saying she overheard Shelly talking final 3 with Jeff\Jordan when the clip shows her talking final three with Rachel\Brendon. It is her way of tossing Jeff\Jordan under the bus without actually appearing to do so.

I am also glad the HOH went the way it did but believe that no one in there has any right to indignation. It may be of the weak variety but there is a lot of back stabbing going on in the house.

Russ Smith

Yes but that's 2 different things, Shelly says she's furious that Rachel is telling people she (shelly) approached them about a deal, she in fact did. She also is saying Rachel is spreading information and misinformation which is sort of true sort of not. As you said Shelly HAS in fact talked to Jeff and Jordan about a final 3, she's done it with with other 2somes as well, I don't think Rachel really overheard her say that but it is true.

I guess what bugged me is Shelly saying I guess being forthright and honest gets you nowhere in this house, the problem is she's NOT doing that, she's talking deal with everyone. I really think when the contestants get to watch the show and see it they will be surprised that none of them ever knew where Shelly really stood. She's a very likable person, she just seems very adept at telling people what they want to hear, truth or not.

But I'd much rather she win than Rachel or Brendan, I can't stand either of them.

IN a perfect world for me Jordan would win.

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DiamondBacks5117

why would you not take Jordan to the finals with you who hasnt won anything? Is it because she would have the jury votes to win anyway?

asudevil83

that's basically it...she had the votes to win from the jury.

DiamondBacks5117

Its sort of a double standord because they say they want to play with people who compete but they would pick Jordan to win when she hanst won anything?

DiamondBacks5117

Can anyone else believe that shelley voted for rachel to win? I guess she just did it because Rachel played the best game or for her to forgive her. Also i think Rachel deserved to win she played the best game. I almost thought she shouldve taken Adam with her to the end because he hadnt won anything but now i see that might have cost her.

nashman

Danielle, and Keliea, and Adam voted for porshe? What a joke Porshe slept through 2 months of the game! Danielle and Keliea just showed what bitter bitches they are by voting the way they did at least Adam could say I just voted against you because you threw me out of the house a few minutes ago geesh. At least the right person won out of the three that were left! Danielle just seems like a terrible person no wonder her own dad doesn't like her just a hateful spiteful bee itch!

Russ Smith

Admittedly I can't stand Rachel but as has been pointed out several places a big reason Rachel won is that BB essentially got the season they wanted.

She kept saying she had the toughest game but that's not necessarily true.

First off, she would have been out weeks ago if Brendon hadn't won POV and pulled her, not him off the block. What other player in the game had another alliance so tight that person would go home for them?

Then BB decided that wasn't enough so they brought Brendon back, as I mentioned before there were numerous online polls taken leading up to that and none of them showed him anywhere near the top votegetter, obviously not proof but many people think CBS rigged that vote to give him the chance to come back. That forced Daniele to get him out AGAIN, instead of her being able to get Rachel out which was probably her next target. Even that wasn't enough they had to bring up the "twist" prior to the vote so that kahlia would be afraid to target Rachel thinking she'd come right back, that's how Lawon ended up on the block in the first place.

She's very good at the actual competitions, just a horrible person in other ways IMHO. But I admit to being very biased I just strongly dislike her, would have loved to see Jordan win if not her Adam or Porsche would have been great at least they seem to be good people.

Off topic but apparently Rachel and Brendon are getting married this weekend, she apparently tried to get CBS or someone else pay for it and eventually found some obscure site that nobody has heard of to pay for it. She just won 500K why can't she pay?

And one I hadn't read before, less than a year ago Brendon admitted he'd had a "skype affair" with another woman and Rachel only found out when the woman posted naked pics of Brendon on Twitter when she called the woman a liar for saying she had been having an affair with Brendon. He then offered a tearful apology. There's also a story out there that says CBS had picked another couple to be on until that story came out and then yanked them and put Brendon and Rachel on instead thinking they would be better tv.

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nashman

Russ while I agree and dislike Rachel she CLEARLY deserved to win over porshe as she played the game a 1000'time better. Porshe did nothing most of the game and if you ever seen any o the afterdark she is about as good of a person as Rachel she is not the goody goody they show on CBS. She is a total floater and the only reason she made it to the end was people were so concerned with the vets her and Adam managed to make to the end. Also not sure if anyone caught porshe talking about growing up but she is not poor and is basically a silverspoon kid talking about meeting some guy at applebees when she was 16 they dated for a year and a half oh did I mentioned he was there on spring break so they flew back and forth every other week from state to state to carry on there dating... Seriously what 16 yr old kid can pay for that? She is seemingly nice but sorry for people to vote for her is pure animosity for Rachel no person who watched the show could honestly say she deserved to win. She didn't even deserve to win the 50000 but Rachel had to take her or Adam may have won, he didn't really deserve to win either but Rachel made the right choice to ensure her win, the voting was way way closer than it should have been. Kalia and danielle just showed their true colors and what kind of bitter individuals they are!