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Old August 28th, 2008, 06:55 AM   #61
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Dan only had to agree to be America's Player for that one week.

They tossed him a few odd tasks and he had to vote their way but only the one time. He got cash for it, $10000 I think.
OK thanks I think that was when I was in Mexico, when I got back I knew his vote had been as AP so I just assumed it was the whole season like last time.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 06:57 AM   #62
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Reading other Forums.. there are a lot of people that love dan...

I an NOT one of them...

To me, Dan is a two-faced schemer, who has done nothing but lie and go back on his word....

It is seriously sickening to watch how he acts one way, and then stirs conflict by manipulating people and using his "word" and his "religion" as if they were hand puppets....

Ollie is a good guy, who perhaps is a little too nieve believeing someone like Dan would ACTUALLY follow through and what he gave his word for and SWORE ON HIS FAMILY he would do....

I PRAY the double eviction will include Dan tommorrow, and he gets what coming to him, because when your charactor means nothing, you deserve NOTHING....

IMO...

In the real world I'd completely agree but in a game like Big Brother it's all for the sake of winning. I really don't know that it's possible to win a show like this and not sacrifice something. I don't think you can be completely honest and win?

Obviously some play cleaner than others and Dan has clearly done some things he may not be proud of, but that's sort of the nature of the game.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 07:53 AM   #63
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In the real world I'd completely agree but in a game like Big Brother it's all for the sake of winning. I really don't know that it's possible to win a show like this and not sacrifice something. I don't think you can be completely honest and win?

Obviously some play cleaner than others and Dan has clearly done some things he may not be proud of, but that's sort of the nature of the game.
I do agree with ya Russ... and I will admit this is the very first time I have watched BB, a friend talked me into it, I tend to think if one gives his word and swears on his family.. that it should mean something....

I am a big fan of Survivor, and one of the worst moments I can remember is when the old guy (can't remember his name) gave a car to this other guy for his vote. On National TV, the dude swore on his children's lives he would follow through on his deal, and then turned around and voted him out...

Even though its a game, I would not deal with that man in real life under any circumstances.... And its the same way I fell about Dan...

But in the end, the chance to win a little bit of money, means charactor and moral vaules go out the window, and perhaps thats why we watch....
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Old August 28th, 2008, 08:28 AM   #64
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I do agree with ya Russ... and I will admit this is the very first time I have watched BB, a friend talked me into it, I tend to think if one gives his word and swears on his family.. that it should mean something....

I am a big fan of Survivor, and one of the worst moments I can remember is when the old guy (can't remember his name) gave a car to this other guy for his vote. On National TV, the dude swore on his children's lives he would follow through on his deal, and then turned around and voted him out...

Even though its a game, I would not deal with that man in real life under any circumstances.... And its the same way I fell about Dan...

But in the end, the chance to win a little bit of money, means charactor and moral vaules go out the window, and perhaps thats why we watch....

Yauman gave it up and I can't remember the guy who went back on his words name right now but yeah I remember that season.

We all have different ethics, I wouldn't give my word and break it, but I do understand why Dan in THIS situation does, because he realized if he didn't it would probably put him out of the game shortly. He'd have to put up a member of his alliance, that person may go home, and then his weakened alliance would be after him, the others would be after him, and he'd be out the door.

In the end if you're not there to win the money, you shouldn't go on the show IMHO.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 09:08 AM   #65
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Yauman gave it up and I can't remember the guy who went back on his words name right now but yeah I remember that season.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 10:54 AM   #66
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If I were Dan I would have just honored the deal. If he put Keesha up at Ollies request Jerry would have gone home. Ollie and Michelle would vote Keesha, Memphis and Renny would vote Jerry. Dan has the tie breaker which he did not promise to Ollie, Jerry goes. Now Ollie and Michelle will keep him around one more week and if Keesha wins she would gun for Ollie because he made the decision to put her up. He probably just couldn't stomach the risk but I think it would have worked out.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 11:29 AM   #67
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If I were Dan I would have just honored the deal. If he put Keesha up at Ollies request Jerry would have gone home. Ollie and Michelle would vote Keesha, Memphis and Renny would vote Jerry. Dan has the tie breaker which he did not promise to Ollie, Jerry goes. Now Ollie and Michelle will keep him around one more week and if Keesha wins she would gun for Ollie because he made the decision to put her up. He probably just couldn't stomach the risk but I think it would have worked out.
If I was Keesha, I'd be more mad at my so-called ally than I would at a guy who was just playing the game smart.

Oh, hell, who am I kidding; if I was Keesha, I'd be spending my entire day looking at myself naked.



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Old August 28th, 2008, 01:48 PM   #68
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Its how the game is played period. Every year someone has to break a promise, nothing new. IMHO Ollie is a complete fool for even believing Dan was just basically gonna let him call all the shots and be HOH. Ollie has been to tied up in his showmance to play the game and now he got played, serves him right! Your their to play the game so freakin play it, besides he made the deal because he was about to fall off and figured try to get something out of it. If I were Dan I would have put Ollie up when Memphis took himself off. Screw Ollie he is maybe the most boring bland person ever on BB, god the guy just mopes around all the time doing nothing even when his girl was their, hes just BORING. Your word means nothing in a game where everyone is lying you should know that going in, if you don't well maybe your too stupid to be there anyway.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 02:18 PM   #69
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Its how the game is played period. Every year someone has to break a promise, nothing new. IMHO Ollie is a complete fool for even believing Dan was just basically gonna let him call all the shots and be HOH. Ollie has been to tied up in his showmance to play the game and now he got played, serves him right! Your their to play the game so freakin play it, besides he made the deal because he was about to fall off and figured try to get something out of it. If I were Dan I would have put Ollie up when Memphis took himself off. Screw Ollie he is maybe the most boring bland person ever on BB, god the guy just mopes around all the time doing nothing even when his girl was their, hes just BORING. Your word means nothing in a game where everyone is lying you should know that going in, if you don't well maybe your too stupid to be there anyway.
the advantage of keeping Ollie around is you can always beat him at the end by just whipping out a crow and scaring the crap out of him.
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Double elimination. No surprises there. I wish Jerry would have won HOH just to shack things up a bit.
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Double elimination. No surprises there. I wish Jerry would have won HOH just to shack things up a bit.
Yeah that was pathetic he and Ollie needed to win to get off the block and neither one of them even found one veto before Dan and Memphis had 2.

And they weren't kidding about a weeks worth of BB in one show, my god they had a commercial every 2 minutes.
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the advantage of keeping Ollie around is you can always beat him at the end by just whipping out a crow and scaring the crap out of him.
I told my wife this line last night and she laughed her butt off.



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Ollie was a big cry baby idiot and they dealt with him accordingly. Should be interesting now to see who starts turning on who. Oh and a little spoiler on afterdark last night Jerry was wearing an HOH key around his neck...uh oh!
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Ollie was a big cry baby idiot and they dealt with him accordingly. Should be interesting now to see who starts turning on who. Oh and a little spoiler on afterdark last night Jerry was wearing an HOH key around his neck...uh oh!
My guess Keisha and Dan vs Reny, the bartender and the old guy. The only wildcard is whether or not the barkeep dude will still be pissed at Dan or not.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 06:33 PM   #75
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Ollie was a big cry baby idiot and they dealt with him accordingly. Should be interesting now to see who starts turning on who. Oh and a little spoiler on afterdark last night Jerry was wearing an HOH key around his neck...uh oh!
Whoa........what happened to the spoiler function
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