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Old August 31st, 2008, 02:57 PM   #1
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Why do Republicans have a convention on Labor Day?


Is this a slap in the face of organized labor, or what? I am surprised no one has mentioned this in the media. Forgot organized labor, what about the average working Joe that labor day is supposed to celebrate? The people the Republicans say they represent. Why not wait another week?
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Old August 31st, 2008, 06:33 PM   #2
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Is this a slap in the face of organized labor, or what? I am surprised no one has mentioned this in the media. Forgot organized labor, what about the average working Joe that labor day is supposed to celebrate? The people the Republicans say they represent. Why not wait another week?
The Republicans are not the party of organized labor. Especially when the unions are donating millions of dollars to democratic candidates.

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The Democratic majority in Congress, which was elected with the help of $57.6 million in campaign contributions from unions, has pushed measures to increase wages on public projects, ease rules for unionizing workplaces and cut funding for corruption investigators.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ts-union_N.htm

The only time I can ever remember the Reps courting the unions was when the Gingrich crowd realized that the left wing of the Democratic Party was out of touch with the rank and file union member and played on that social divide with the "contract with America" and "family values" to wrest control of the Congress from Bill Clinton and the dems.

I love this board and how posters are aghast when Republicans are conservative and pro management and Democrats are liberal and pro union.
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Old August 31st, 2008, 09:38 PM   #3
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Is this a slap in the face of organized labor, or what? I am surprised no one has mentioned this in the media. Forgot organized labor, what about the average working Joe that labor day is supposed to celebrate? The people the Republicans say they represent. Why not wait another week?
Its so that the average working Joe can attend or watch the RNC without taking a day off of work!

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Old August 31st, 2008, 10:05 PM   #4
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Its so that the average working Joe can attend or watch the RNC without taking a day off of work!

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Old August 31st, 2008, 11:05 PM   #5
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The only time I can ever remember the Reps courting the unions was when the Gingrich crowd realized that the left wing of the Democratic Party was out of touch with the rank and file union member and played on that social divide with the "contract with America" and "family values" to wrest control of the Congress from Bill Clinton and the dems.

I love this board and how posters are aghast when Republicans are conservative and pro management and Democrats are liberal and pro union.
I agree with the first part but have quarrel with the second. I am a union member and in fact a vice-president of a local. A lot of union members are Republicans and it is a continual problem with members being upset with how their money is being spent on political campaigns.

This is why Democrats have fought so hard to keep union members from having more say over their portion of dues being spent on politicical campaigns.

Many union members disagree with the unions stance on politics but contine to be members and pay dues because they believe that the union is the only entity that supports many of their issues apart from politics.

I've always believed Republicans make a mistake when they don't court union votes because there are many members sympathetic to many conservative causes.

As an aside the current president has not done anything for unions at all.

The more interesting thing is that Clinton, although popular, did not represent union interests well either and many of us feel we lost a lot of ground under Bill Clinton.

I feel that as a union we got our best treatment from Bush 1. Maybe that was when Republicans were trying to court unions, I don't know. I think the Republicans made a concious decision to not court union vote when Bush 1 tried hard but the unions rolled over for Clinton anyway.

I just find it all so ironic because my personal experiences tell me that Bush 1 tried hard and fostered more positive relationships with unions while Clinton not only did not deliver on his promises but our difficulties with federal policies and attitudes worsened as well.

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Old August 31st, 2008, 11:19 PM   #6
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I agree with the first part but have quarrel with the second. I am a union member and in fact a vice-president of a local. A lot of union members are Republicans and it is a continual problem with members being upset with how their money is being spent on political campaigns.

This is why Democrats have fought so hard to keep union members from having more say over their portion of dues being spent on politicical campaigns.

Many union members disagree with the unions stance on politics but contine to be members and pay dues because they believe that the union is the only entity that supports many of their issues apart from politics.

I've always believed Republicans make a mistake when they don't court union votes because there are many members sympathetic to many conservative causes.

As an aside the current president has not done anything for unions at all.

The more interesting thing is that Clinton, although popular, did not represent union interests well either and many of us feel we lost a lot of ground under Bill Clinton.

I feel that as a union we got our best treatment from Bush 1. maybe that was when Republicans were trying to court unions, I don't know. I think the Republicans made a concious decision to not court union vote when Bush 1 tried hard but the unions rolled over for Clinton anyway.

I just find it all so ironic because my personal experiences tell me that Bush 1 tried hard and fostered more positive relationships with unions while Clinton not only did not deliver on his promises but our difficulties with federal policies and attitudes worsened as well.

I've been a member of 3 different unions and have worked closely with unions all my life. The fact that the national AFL/CIO blindly support the Demo ticket even when the Demos do very little to support their causes has always bewildered me.

Unions have made vast strides in the past decade and are no longer militant or demanding unmanageable wages. Their heirarchy at the local level has gone from club carrying goons (50's and 60's) to well mannered, respectable individuals who understand the businessess they supply employees to. They have more in common with the businessmen they are dealing with (many of whom are Republican) then they do a political party.

I can sympathize with you peri.
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