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vBookie Event: US Election Parlay Card (Politics)
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US Election Parlay Card (Politics)

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Outcome Odds Total Bets Total Staked
1. Obama loses PV, wins EV 99/1 (99.00) 7 1310  
2. McCain loses PV, wins EV 99/1 (99.00) 6 510  
3. Obama wins 375+ EV 2/1 (2.00) 1 100  
4. Obama loses OH, Wins EV (270+) 6/1 (6.00) 7 1610  
5. Obama loses OH & FL, Wins EV (270+) 8/1 (8.00) 1 500  
6. Obama wins all Kerry States 1/1 (1.00) 5 450 WIN!
7. Obama wins VA and Loses OH 7/1 (7.00) 3 1200  
8. Obama wins FL and Loses OH 42/1 (42.00) 8 860  
9. Obama wins CO and Loses OH 7/1 (7.00) 3 300  
10. Obama Wins Exactly 353 EV 6/1 (6.00) 0 0  
11. Obama Wins Exactly 364 EV 6/1 (6.00) 0 0  
12. Obama Wins Exactly 375 EV 6/1 (6.00) 0 0  
13. Obama Wins Exactly 311 EV 6/1 (6.00) 1 100  
14. Obama Wins Exactly 378 EV 6/1 (6.00) 0 0  
15. Obama Wins EV total OTHER than items 11-14. 6/1 (6.00) 9 7205 WIN!
16. Obama ends with a even EV total. 1/1 (1.00) 1 100  
17. Obama ends with an odd EV total. 1/1 (1.00) 1 100 WIN!
18. Dems control a min of 58 Senate seats (incl. Ind) 1/1 (1.00) 0 0  
19. Dems control a min of 60 Senate seats (incl. Ind) 4/1 (4.00) 1 100 WIN!
20. Dems control a min of 62 Senate seats (inc. Ind) 9/1 (9.00) 0 0  
21. Obama wins AZ 19/1 (19.00) 9 1293  
22. McCain wins AZ 1/19 F (0.05) 1 100 WIN!
23. Obama wins FL 1/2 (0.50) 1 100 WIN!
24. McCain wins FL 2/1 (2.00) 2 200  
25. Obama wins IN 2/1 (2.00) 0 0 WIN!
26. McCain wins IN 1/2 (0.50) 1 100  
27. Obama wins MO 1/1 (1.00) 0 0  
28. McCain wins MO 1/1 (1.00) 1 100 WIN!
29. Obama wins MT 9/1 (9.00) 4 350  
30. McCain wins MT 1/9 (0.11) 2 200 WIN!
31. Obama wins NC 1/2 (0.50) 2 200 WIN!
32. McCain wins NC 2/1 (2.00) 0 0  
33. Obama wins ND 3/1 (3.00) 1 100  
34. McCain wins ND 1/3 (0.33) 0 0 WIN!
35. Obama wins NV 1/4 (0.25) 1 100 WIN!
36. McCain wins NV 4/1 (4.00) 3 400  
37. Obama wins OH 1/4 (0.25) 1 100 WIN!
38. McCain wins OH 4/1 (4.00) 5 410  
39. Franken wins MN Senate Seat 1/1 (1.00) 1 100 WIN!
40. Coleman wins MN Senate Seat 1/1 (1.00) 1 200 WIN!
41. Hagan wins NC Senate Seat 1/3 (0.33) 0 0 WIN!
42. Dole wins NC Senate Seat 3/1 (3.00) 0 0  
43. Obama over 51.5% of the Popular Vote 3/2 (1.50) 12 6927 WIN!
44. Obama under 51.5% of the Popular Vote 2/1 (2.00) 3 2448  

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Old November 2nd, 2008, 09:30 AM   #1
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The US Election Parlay Card!


OK Folks, here's the national election parlay card.

All odds are based off of fivethirtyeight.com as of Sunday, Nov. 2 2008 around 8.30 AM PST.

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Here's the full explanation of every item, 538 odds at post and payout requirements:

538 runs 10,000 simulations per day. Therefore, when you look at the odds and scenarios, if it shows Obama winning 100% of the time out of 2000 scenarios, then the actual probabilities are 1/5 (100%x2,000/10,000).

[edit] - The way that Birdman explained it, therefore the odds would be 4/1.

Odds posted are bet to win. Numbers below are probabilities of event happening.

Now, your betting options on how the National Presidential Election will unfold:

1. Obama loses the National Popular Vote, wins the Electoral Vote: 1.11%, rounded to 100/1.

2. McCain loses the National Popular Vote, wins the Electoral Vote: 1.20%, rounded to 100/1.

3. Obama wins more than 375 Electoral votes (Landslide): 29.28%, rounded to 3/1.

Note - the odds for a McCain landslide are 10,000/1 - no bet offered.

4. Obama loses Ohio, Wins Election (no electoral votes from Ohio to Obama, Obama gets at least 270 EV): 78% out of 1709 / 10,000, or 13.33%, rounded payout of 7/1.

Note - McCain odds for the same are 10,000/6 - no bet offered.

5. Obama loses Ohio AND Florida, Wins Election: 75% / 1474 / 10,000, or 10.1%, rounded payout of 9/1.

Note - McCain odds for same are zero. No bet offered.

6. Obama wins all KERRY states, defined as: WA, OR, CA, HI, MN, WI, MI, IL, PA, NY, ME, VT, NH, MA, RI, CT, NJ, DE, MD, DC: 96.63% - Or 1/1.

Note - McCain odds are at 10,000/7 - no bet offered.

7. Obama wins VA AND loses OH: 72% / 1708 / 10,000, or 12.32%, rounded to payout of 8/1.

8. Obama wins FL AND loses OH: 13.75% / 1709 / 10,000, or 2.35%, rounded payout to 43/1

9. Obama wins CO AND loses OH: 72% / 1709 / 10,000, or 12.32%, rounded to a payout of 8/1.

Guess the Electoral Vote for Obama (or McCain, you just have to do the math):
10. 353 - 6/1
11. 364 - 6/1
12. 375 - 6/1
13. 311 - 6/1
14. 378 - 6/1
15. Other number - 6/1.

16. Last number in Obama's EV total is even: 1/1.
17. Last number in Obama's EV total is odd: 1/1.

The Senate Outcome:

Note - for the purpose of these bets, both Independents (Sanders & Lieberman) are included in the totals.

18. Democrats control a minimum of 58 seats: 1/1
19. Democrats control a minimum of 60 seats: 5/1
20. Democrats control a minimum of 62 seats: 10/1

Battleground States:

Arizona - Projected McCain win 95% of simulations:
21. Obama wins Arizona: 20/1
22. McCain wins Arizona: 1/20

Florida - Projected Obama win 64% of simulations:
23. Obama wins Florida: 1/3
24. McCain wins Florida: 3/1

Indiana - Projected McCain win 66% of simulations:
25. Obama wins Indiana: 3/1
26. McCain wins Indiana: 1/3

Missouri - Projected McCain win 57% of simulations:
27. Obama wins Missouri: 1/1
28. McCain wins Missouri: 1/1

Montana - Projected McCain win 90% of simulations:
29. Obama wins Montana: 10/1
30. McCain wins Montana: 1/10

North Carolina - Projected Obama win 66% of simulations:
31. Obama wins North Carolina: 1/3
32. McCain wins North Carolina: 3/1

North Dakota - Projected McCain win 74% of simulations:
33. Obama wins North Dakota: 4/1
34. McCain wins North Dakota: 1/4

Nevada - Projected Obama win 83% of simulations:
35. Obama wins Nevada: 1/5
36. McCain wins Nevada: 5/1

Ohio - Projected Obama win 83% of simulations:
37. Obama wins Ohio: 1/5
38. McCain wins Ohio: 5/1

Pick the Winning Senator:
Minnesota:
39. Franken - 1/1
40. Coleman - 1/1

North Carolina:
41. Hagan: 1/4
42. Dole: 4/1

I hope that this does the trick for the vBookie / political junkies out there. Sorry if it's too complicated / long.

[edit] By request:

43. Obama gets over 51.500% of the PV, including 3rd Party Totals: 3/2
44. Obama gets under 51.500% of the PV, including 3rd Party Totals: 2/1
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 09:36 AM   #2
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Your odds are off, right now you just have the probabilities of winning. Take Arizona for example....with Obama winning 5% of the time he will win 1 out of every 20, so the odds on the bet are actually 19:1 if you are going to take him (he will lose 19 times for every 1 time he wins) But the numbers are still there just backwards, you just might want to make some slight adjustments.
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Your odds are off, right now you just have the probabilities of winning. Take Arizona for example....with Obama winning 5% of the time he will win 1 out of every 20, so the odds on the bet are actually 19:1 if you are going to take him (he will lose 19 times for every 1 time he wins) But the numbers are still there just backwards, you just might want to make some slight adjustments.
Numbers flipped so that they match the event.
Adjusted the numbers to match odds instead of probabilities.
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Uhh... do you have to bet on everything? This looks worse than doing my taxes.
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Uhh... do you have to bet on everything? This looks worse than doing my taxes.
No, vbookie will allow you to bet on as many or as few as you want.
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No popular vote or EV over-under, no point spreads?
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No popular vote or EV over-under, no point spreads?
Picky woman! LOL

I was reading through it thinking, wow... this must have taken him some time to put together.
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Oh, totally -- it's just that over under and point spread are the only things I understand.
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No popular vote or EV over-under, no point spreads?
538 is currently projecting a PV of 51.5 to 46.4 (w/ 2.1 going to Other / Write In / NOTA). Thinking about how I can do this (gets tricky as the 3rd party candidates can really mess things up), I'll put in a bet item where Obama wins the PV outright at 3/2, and McCain wins the PV at 2/1.
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Picky woman! LOL

I was reading through it thinking, wow... this must have taken him some time to put together.
About 2 hours or so.
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