Enjoy an Ads-Free ASFN - lighter and faster too! Become an ASFN-Contributor and help support the site.
Go Back   Arizona Sports Fans Network > Other Stuff > Politics and Religion > 2008 Presidential Election

Welcome to ASFN Fan Forums! We're glad to have you here. Please feel free to browse the forum. We'd like to invite you to join our community; doing so will enable you to view additional forums and post with our other members.


Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old June 3rd, 2008, 09:55 AM   #1
LacardJoe67
Tampa or bust!
 
LacardJoe67's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: who wants to know?
Posts: 2,194
A$FN: 1,404

State pork to Obama's district included allies, donors


This is an old article but I thought it would nice to refresh our minds as to what will come out in the general. I happened to run across this while reading up on Pfledger...enjoy!


Quote:
State pork to Obama's district included allies, donors

By Ray Long | Ray Gibson and David Jackson
May 3, 2007

SPRINGFIELD - Barack Obama has expressed pride in his ability to bring home old-fashioned pork.

During his nearly eight years in Springfield, he tucked special earmarks into massive budget bills to shower small bequests on inner city schools, parks and youth service agencies.

But some of the larger grants Obama sponsored were tied to political allies and show how difficult it is even for politicians advocating reform to avoid the appearance of favoritism as they dole out taxpayer funds. Several non-profit directors, for instance, gave money to Obama's campaigns soon after their allotments were awarded.


"My philosophy was that, if money was being distributed, then it would be inappropriate for me to not get my share for my district," Obama, now one of the U.S. Senate Democrats' leaders on ethics reform, said in an interview. "Did I think it was the best way to prioritize government spending? No."

The Tribune analyzed 119 grants in which Obama steered more than $6 million for Chicago projects between late 1999 and late 2002, the heart of his Statehouse career and the center of a state government frenzy in which Obama said the pork-barrel process was "wide open."

Typical of his grants was the $5,000 Obama delivered to the South Shore Public Library for chess equipment, books and knitting supplies, or the $5,000 to help the Sir Miles Davis Academy plaster and paint walls and repair windows.

But other grants reflected politics. In 2001, for example, Obama steered $75,000 to a South Side charity called FORUM Inc., which promised to help churches and community groups get wired to the Internet. Records show five FORUM employees, including one who had declared bankruptcy, had donated $1,000 apiece to Obama's state Senate campaign.

As the grant dollars were being disbursed to FORUM, the Illinois attorney general filed a civil lawsuit accusing the charity's founder of engaging in an unrelated kickback scheme. Just days after the suit was filed, Obama quietly returned the $5,000 in donations. "I didn't want to be associated with money that potentially might have been tainted," he said.

FORUM founder Yesse Yehudah, who unsuccessfully ran for state Senate against Obama in 1998, denied wrongdoing and, without admitting guilt, settled the attorney general's lawsuit by paying $10,000 to a charity. He declined to comment.

Obama was not accused of wrongdoing, and he said none of his state grants came about as a quid pro quo.

"It happens that there were major supporters in my district who had been supporters before they got member initiatives," Obama said, noting that some of his contributors had been his allies for years.

One of those long-time supporters was Rev. Michael Pfleger, the politically active leader of St. Sabina Church. He gave Obama's campaign $1,500 between 1995 and 2001, including $200 in April 2001, about three months after Obama announced $225,000 in grants to St. Sabina programs.

Pfleger said he made those donations personally, not on behalf of the church or to win grants.

"At a time when less people vote than ever, I don't think pastors should be silent on politics," Pfleger said.

Another supporter, Henry English, made two donations to Obama totaling $900 in 2001 after Obama helped send a $50,000 grant to a non-profit group that English ran, the Black United Fund of Illinois. English scoffed when asked if his donations were related to the grants.

"It's something that I did," he said. BUFI and Obama "have somewhat of a relationship. He is from down the street."

Personal ties to Obama also were evident in some pork dispensed by his political allies. The Chicago-based Muntu Dance Theatre received a $4.5 million grant to help pay for a $10 million cultural center.

Obama's mentor in Springfield, state Sen. Emil Jones (D-Chicago), sponsored the grant. And at the time $2.25 million of the grant was disbursed, Obama's wife, Michelle, sat on the non-profit dance group's board.


Obama said in the interview that at the time of the award in 2003 his wife wasn't a board member, though tax returns of the charity indicate she sat on the board in 2002 and 2003. Jones' spokeswoman said Michelle Obama did not lobby him for the funds.
Same ol politics at work. Looks like it will be the home town newspapers that will bring everything into light.

Obama lies about his wife in an interview and then uses a spokeswomen to correct the record...huh?
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
__________________
If your sword's too short, add to its length by taking one step forward.
LacardJoe67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 10:10 AM   #2
Pariah
H.S.
 
Pariah's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Aventine
Posts: 28,605
A$FN: 41,963
Quote:
Originally Posted by LacardJoe67 View Post

Obama lies about his wife in an interview and then uses a spokeswomen to correct the record...huh?
The quote isn't necessarily contradictory.

Quote:
Obama said in the interview that at the time of the award in 2003 his wife wasn't a board member, though tax returns of the charity indicate she sat on the board in 2002 and 2003.
Depends on when the board seats were up. She could have been on the board from June 2002 - June 2003 and the money could have been awarded in November for all we know.
__________________
America cannot have an empire abroad and a Republic at home.
Pariah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 10:27 AM   #3
Linderbee
That's not Snowflake!!
 
Linderbee's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: MESA! :thud:
Posts: 19,099
A$FN: 500,000
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pariah View Post
The quote isn't necessarily contradictory.

Depends on when the board seats were up. She could have been on the board from June 2002 - June 2003 and the money could have been awarded in November for all we know.
The sentence just before that says she was:

Quote:
Obama's mentor in Springfield, state Sen. Emil Jones (D-Chicago), sponsored the grant. And at the time $2.25 million of the grant was disbursed, Obama's wife, Michelle, sat on the non-profit dance group's board.
Or at least, she was on when they received some of it; I guess not necessarily when it was awarded.
__________________
dreamcastrocks--My Hero!!
Linderbee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 10:50 AM   #4
Pariah
H.S.
 
Pariah's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Aventine
Posts: 28,605
A$FN: 41,963
Details, details...



I fall into the trap of only reading highlighted portions of most stuff. Sorry.
__________________
America cannot have an empire abroad and a Republic at home.
Pariah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:00 AM   #5
Rivercard
Happy days are here again
 
Rivercard's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Is everything
Posts: 8,841
A$FN: 8,000
Grants for parks, the arts, and community groups. GASP!
__________________
Question Authority
Rivercard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:04 AM   #6
Mulli
Count of Montefisto
 
Mulli's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northwest Gotham
Posts: 24,666
A$FN: 787,102
He gave Obama's campaign $1,500 between 1995 and 2001, including $200 in April 2001, about three months after Obama announced $225,000 in grants to St. Sabina programs.


shocking!!!

LaJoe, are you trying to make up for the alleged biased media coverage all by yourself?

Mulli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:13 AM   #7
LacardJoe67
Tampa or bust!
 
LacardJoe67's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: who wants to know?
Posts: 2,194
A$FN: 1,404
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mulli View Post
He gave Obama's campaign $1,500 between 1995 and 2001, including $200 in April 2001, about three months after Obama announced $225,000 in grants to St. Sabina programs.


shocking!!!

LaJoe, are you trying to make up for the alleged biased media coverage all by yourself?

It's a hard job but someone has to do it.
__________________
If your sword's too short, add to its length by taking one step forward.
LacardJoe67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:14 AM   #8
Mulli
Count of Montefisto
 
Mulli's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northwest Gotham
Posts: 24,666
A$FN: 787,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by LacardJoe67 View Post
It's a hard job but someone has to do it.
This morning dropping off my laundry I saw a video of Bill comforting Hillary yesterday. did you see it? what was he comforting her for?
Mulli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:14 AM   #9
LacardJoe67
Tampa or bust!
 
LacardJoe67's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: who wants to know?
Posts: 2,194
A$FN: 1,404
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivercard View Post
Grants for parks, the arts, and community groups. GASP!

Oh, nothing is wrong with that but why would Obama lie about it when first approached? hmmmm????
__________________
If your sword's too short, add to its length by taking one step forward.
LacardJoe67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:15 AM   #10
Mulli
Count of Montefisto
 
Mulli's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northwest Gotham
Posts: 24,666
A$FN: 787,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by LacardJoe67 View Post
Oh, nothing is wrong with that but why would Obama lie about it when first approached? hmmmm????
Sleep drepivation?
Mulli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:17 AM   #11
LacardJoe67
Tampa or bust!
 
LacardJoe67's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: who wants to know?
Posts: 2,194
A$FN: 1,404
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mulli View Post
This morning dropping off my laundry I saw a video of Bill comforting Hillary yesterday. did you see it? what was he comforting her for?
didn't see it but it's pretty obvious.
__________________
If your sword's too short, add to its length by taking one step forward.
LacardJoe67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:18 AM   #12
Mulli
Count of Montefisto
 
Mulli's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northwest Gotham
Posts: 24,666
A$FN: 787,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by LacardJoe67 View Post
didn't see it but it's pretty obvious.
I suppose.
Mulli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:19 AM   #13
Rivercard
Happy days are here again
 
Rivercard's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Is everything
Posts: 8,841
A$FN: 8,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by LacardJoe67 View Post
didn't see it but it's pretty obvious.
Now they have only $80 million in the bank instead of $100 million?
__________________
Question Authority
Rivercard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:20 AM   #14
Mulli
Count of Montefisto
 
Mulli's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northwest Gotham
Posts: 24,666
A$FN: 787,102
I am thinking it is pizza night in celebration of B.O. Day!!!
Mulli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:53 AM   #15
Yuma
Out of posting retirement!
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,834
A$FN: 1,000
Still not close to the 3 BILLION Hillary earmarked just last Senate session!
__________________
KOC Rules!
Yuma's Dad RIP 03/22/07


I still have a gut feeling Shaq will be better next season (2008/2009) after our docs have a full off season to work their magic on the Big Saguaro!
Yuma is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:33 PM.



Subscribe in a reader
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
Copyright © 2002 - 2006 ArizonaSportsFans.com
Inactive Reminders By Icora Web Design