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Old August 15th, 2007, 12:45 PM   #106
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Old August 15th, 2007, 12:46 PM   #107
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Old August 15th, 2007, 12:54 PM   #108
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I would vote for Ron Paul but I hate his stance on abortion and fertility treatments. It's a shame......

..and yes I have children and no I do not think abortion is murder and I think we should be able to use human embryo for testing and research
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Old August 15th, 2007, 02:05 PM   #109
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I would vote for Ron Paul but I hate his stance on abortion and fertility treatments. It's a shame......

..and yes I have children and no I do not think abortion is murder and I think we should be able to use human embryo for testing and research

Dr. Paul's stance is the Federal Government has no business making decisions in either of those areas.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 02:29 PM   #110
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Dr. Paul's stance is the Federal Government has no business making decisions in either of those areas.
He is stout pro life, he was the Senetor that introduced The Sanctity of Life Act of 2005 that defined human life to begin at conception, and removed challenges to prohibitions on abortion from federal court jurisdiction. It would overturn Roe V Wade and put the laws in the hands of the states

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http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...?bill=h109-776

That pretty much sounds like he is making the government make decisions in those areas
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Old August 15th, 2007, 02:30 PM   #111
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Ron Paul is the only candidate I've ever given money to.

Just did.

Going to do $100 a month until he's not in the race anymore, I also signed on as a volunteer.

I don't like that he's pro life, that's all I don't like and I pray that I have to endure living with that.

Everyone else is a lying clown.

Obama was/is the only candidate that I have given money to.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 02:32 PM   #112
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same here
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Old August 15th, 2007, 02:33 PM   #113
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He is stout pro life, he was the Senetor that introduced The Sanctity of Life Act of 2005 that defined human life to begin at conception, and removed challenges to prohibitions on abortion from federal court jurisdiction. It would overturn Roe V Wade and put the laws in the hands of the states

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That pretty much sounds like he is making the government make decisions in those areas
It seems that if he truly wanted the Federal Government to stay out of it, he would not have the Federal Government defining when conception begins.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 02:35 PM   #114
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It seems that if he truly wanted the Federal Government to stay out of it, he would not have the Federal Government defining when conception begins.
Oh yeah, well if he were so anti-government. He wouldn't be running for office. Smart guy.
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Oh yeah, well if he were so anti-government. He wouldn't be running for office. Smart guy.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 02:48 PM   #116
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He is stout pro life, he was the Senetor that introduced The Sanctity of Life Act of 2005 that defined human life to begin at conception, and removed challenges to prohibitions on abortion from federal court jurisdiction. It would overturn Roe V Wade and put the laws in the hands of the states

Check it out

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...?bill=h109-776

That pretty much sounds like he is making the government make decisions in those areas
He isn't a senator. Never has been.

I think this is what it is about.
the provision of public expense of funds, facilities, personnel, or other assistance for the performance of abortions

Plus even if he is the President he can't overturn Roe v. Wade.
He isn't the supreme court.

If it is turned over to the states isn't that taking the federal government out of it?


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It seems that if he truly wanted the Federal Government to stay out of it, he would not have the Federal Government defining when conception begins.
Science determines when conception begins.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 02:54 PM   #117
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If it is turned over to the states isn't that taking the federal government out of it?

No! He wants to dictate when conception begins, that's involving the government!!!!
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He isn't a senator. Never has been.

I think this is what it is about.
the provision of public expense of funds, facilities, personnel, or other assistance for the performance of abortions

Plus even if he is the President he can't overturn Roe v. Wade.
He isn't the supreme court.

If it is turned over to the states isn't that taking the federal government out of it?




Science determines when conception begins.
Then why does the Bill he authored address it?
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Old August 15th, 2007, 02:58 PM   #119
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Language from the Act:

`Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 1253, 1254, and 1257, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any case arising out of any statute, ordinance, rule, regulation, practice, or any part thereof, or arising out of any act interpreting, applying, enforcing, or effecting any statute, ordinance, rule, regulation, or practice, on the grounds that such statute, ordinance, rule, regulation, practice, act, or part thereof--


Great an end run around the Supreme Court. Nice one Paul.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 03:03 PM   #120
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While I am at it, I would like to hear Paul's justification wanting to repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990.
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