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Old July 11th, 2007, 07:14 PM   #76
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This guy was in our airport on Friday night. there was a small crowd of about 30 there with signs and screaming Ron Paul 08. They looked like a bunch of hippies to be quite honest. Nothing against hippies thats just what the crowd consisted of.

This guy dont have a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

I think his stock just doubled because we all said the same thing.

He could make a lot of noise if he gets to New Hampshire he might suprise people they're old school up there.
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Old July 13th, 2007, 11:07 PM   #77
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Now we're talking! Ron Paul is a straight shooter. False flags are highly possible....

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecry...or_attack.html

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Ron Paul warns of staged terror attack


Republican presidential candidate, Rep. Ron Paul, said the country is in "great danger" of the U.S. government staging a terrorist attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation, as the war in Iraq continues to deteriorate.

The Texas congressman offered no specifics nor mentioned President Bush by name, but he clearly insinuated that the administration would not be above staging an incident to revive flagging support.

"We're in danger in many ways," Paul said on the Alex Jones radio show. "The attack on our civil liberties here at home, the foreign policy that's in shambles and our obligations overseas and commitment which endangers our troops and our national defense."

Paul was asked to respond to comments by anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan that the U.S. is in danger of a staged terror attack or a provocation of an enemy similar to the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 before the Vietnam War.

During the radio interview, Paul said the government was conducting "an orchestrated effort to blame the Iranians for everything that has gone wrong in Iraq."

The comments come as several prominent terrorism experts have warned the U.S. is facing an increased risk of attack this summer. Earlier this week, in an interview with the Chicago Tribune, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said he had a "gut feeling" the U.S. would be attacked again.

The remark angered some Democrats, who criticized Chertoff for being too vague. And some pundits seized on his remarks, saying the vague warnings were meant only to revive flagging support for the war in Iraq and Bush’s larger war against terrorism.
Could explain Skeletor's "gut feeling"....
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Old July 13th, 2007, 11:09 PM   #78
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Now we're talking! Ron Paul is a straight shooter. False flags are highly possible....

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecry...or_attack.html



Could explain Skeletor's "gut feeling"....
How exactly does that make him a straight shooter? Sounds to me like he's someone whos trying to make himself look good. Like he not one of the "boys" being a Republican. Call me crazy.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 11:24 AM   #79
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How exactly does that make him a straight shooter? Sounds to me like he's someone whos trying to make himself look good. Like he not one of the "boys" being a Republican. Call me crazy.
You're crazy.



Oh he has no proof, as in well nothing he'd be held accountable for, but he says he has a gut feeling to look like he has a sense for this so that when it happens he can sigh and say, I told you the Iranians and the Dems would be our destruction, let's toss both out and continue on with our happy totalitarian regime we're busy building under your ignorant noses.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 01:16 PM   #80
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Old July 15th, 2007, 01:21 PM   #81
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How exactly does that make him a straight shooter? Sounds to me like he's someone whos trying to make himself look good. Like he not one of the "boys" being a Republican. Call me crazy.

If any of you guys are doubting False Flags, watch the first ten minutes of this Doc it covers unclassified False flag operations in very important times in history. I think its a must watch!!

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Old July 15th, 2007, 01:57 PM   #82
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How exactly does that make him a straight shooter? Sounds to me like he's someone whos trying to make himself look good. Like he not one of the "boys" being a Republican. Call me crazy.
You'd have a point if the guy hasn't been wildly consistent his whole career. He was against Iraq from the start.

And the others playing at being Republican aren't even close to being that. He's a true small government, individual and states' rights Constitutionalist. He doesn't have to try to make himself look good and stand out from the others, because he's the only damn conservative of the lot, who wouldn't go in and spend money like he won the lottery.
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You'd have a point if the guy hasn't been wildly consistent his whole career. He was against Iraq from the start.

And the others playing at being Republican aren't even close to being that. He's a true small government, individual and states' rights Constitutionalist. He doesn't have to try to make himself look good and stand out from the others, because he's the only damn conservative of the lot, who wouldn't go in and spend money like he won the lottery.
Just because his views are fiscally conservative doesnt mean there isnt motive behind his comments Donald. Lets not lose site of that. Just because your consistent doesnt mean you dont take a jab when there is one to be taken.
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Just because his views are fiscally conservative doesnt mean there isnt motive behind his comments Donald. Lets not lose site of that. Just because your consistent doesnt mean you dont take a jab when there is one to be taken.
His motive is to point out the relative obvious times we live in and to win.

I hope he does.
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His motive is to point out the relative obvious times we live in and to win.

I hope he does.
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Old July 16th, 2007, 09:21 AM   #86
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If you really want a change in direction then vote for Dr. Paul.

If you think the status quo is fine, then anyone else will do.



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July 15, 2007, 3:55 p.m.
By David Freddoso


Think what you will of libertarian Texas congressman Ron Paul, but I’m crying foul over this post to the Politico’s “Crypt” blog: “Ron Paul warns of staged terror attack.” Paul simply did not say that the government is planning a fake terror attack, and to say otherwise is journalistic malpractice.

My first reaction to the Politico headline — most people’s reaction, I’m sure — was that Paul should not be elected or defeated, but institutionalized. Then I read what is actually posted there, and I saw no quote from Paul about a “staged terrorist attack.” I did see a summary by Politico blogger Dan Reilly that says Paul “clearly insinuated that the administration would not be above staging an incident to revive flagging support.”

So I listened to the interview, trying to find what Reilly describes. And I listened to it again. And again. And I heard nothing of the sort.

What I did hear was an unhinged radio host ask Paul a wide-ranging, minute-long, wacky question about terrorism, Bush the “dictator,” and neo-cons that ended with “How much danger are we in of some new Gulf of Tonkin provocation?” Paul begins his answer with, ”Well, I think we’re in great danger of it — we’re in danger in many ways.” But as he continues, Paul says nothing about a staged terror attack or the Gulf of Tonkin. Rather, he goes into his usual schtick, complaining about the “great danger” involved in the loss of “civil liberties” and the evils of U.S. Iraq policy. Then he speaks to the likelihood of a real terrorist attack — not a staged attack:

“I would say that we’re in much greater danger than we’ve been, even four or five years ago, whether it’s overseas or even by terrorists here at home, because I just think the policies are seriously flawed.”

So he’s talking about Iraq as possibly making us more vulnerable to terrorism. Call him wrong or even crazy, but this is just standard Ron Paul. It is nothing like a black-helicopter accusation that the government is planning a phony terror attack. If you actually listen to the exchange, the closest Paul comes to saying anything like what’s in the Politico summary comes when he faults the administration’s Iran policy:

“Right now there is an orchestrated effort to blame the Iranians for everything that’s gone wrong in Iraq. And we’re quite concerned, many of us, that the attack will be on Iran and that will confuse things and jeopardize so many more of our troops.”

Call Ron Paul nutty if you like — and certainly this media appearance gives reasons for doing so (he almost predicts an economic collapse later in the interview). But when he says he sees the Bush administration trying to justify war with Iran (which is itself worthy of a headline), that’s just not the same thing as saying that the government plans to stage a terrorist attack to boost its flagging approval ratings. It’s not even close.

Paul is a barely relevant figure who has no chance in the election anyway, but you don’t need to like him to see the danger of this kind of sloppy headline-writing and summarizing. Careless reporters caused riots in the Middle East when they did a similar number on Pope Benedict XVI and his citation of Emperor Paleologus. The pope had actually given a very thoughtful and academic speech about Islamic-Christian relations, but thanks to the journalists, all hell broke loose. Other examples of this dangerous silliness abound.

The media has other problems besides its liberal bias, such as the need for quick sound-bites, inaccurate summaries, and headlines that often come at the expense of getting things right.


— David Freddoso is a political reporter for Evans and Novak Inside Report.
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Old July 16th, 2007, 08:45 PM   #87
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So says you?
See the above post for what I was basically saying.

He's always getting interviewed but the people who think we did 911 and he never takes the bait, what he does is say the same thing in the above post every time.

What he says is basically it dosen't matter who did what, what matters is the direction we are heading and it's bad.

He's never said he believed that we did 911 or that we will do it again, it's silly to put those words in his mouth but he does get interviewed by that crowd once in a while.

He has also been interviewed by the crowd that believes the IRS is illegal and that you don't have to pay taxes, he pays taxes so obviously he dosen't believe in that but he does hate the FED, and I believe we all will shortly.

He has the right answer for almost every financial ill we are living with, he's way ahead of his time, well that's funny actually since he's advocating things that have been around forever.

Periodically people become ignorant about money issues, the powers that be fleece them for everything they are worth, revolts ensue and then they behave for a while when forced to, then people forget and it's rinse and repeat again.

Not one other politician even tries to explain this to you, yet everyone marginalizes the one guy telling the truth, sad.
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on Paul could use votes, but won't always ask


Pretty good article about Paul in the Houston Chronicle.


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VICTORIA — When U.S. Rep. Ron Paul recently gave the keynote address at a ceremony presenting overdue medals to 24 veterans, he talked about patriotism, the country's debt owed to veterans, the need for a strong military and strong personal freedom.

What he didn't mention was that he's running for president.

Nobody else on the program said anything about his presidential campaign or even that he's also running for an 11th term in Congress.

"It didn't seem appropriate," Paul, R-Lake Jackson, said after the July 3 ceremony.

Most of the country may know Ron Paul as the candidate who created an uproar during a debate when he said America's involvement in the Middle East invited the 9/11 attacks, or as the man who very publicly sent Republican front-runner Rudy Giuliani a list of history books to study.

But on this day, the 71-year-old, 10-term congressman was in his home district, not on the presidential campaign trail.

It's not like he couldn't have used the 150 or more votes of those in an auditorium at Victoria College. Few polls have given him more than 1 or 2 percent of the vote in the crowded race to become the Republican presidential nominee.

Instead, he talked again of his belief in a strict constitutionalist and minimal government that doesn't get involved in foreign wars.

He said Congress has not faced up to its constitutional responsibilities since World War II by insisting that only it has the power to declare war.

And he quoted Benjamin Franklin, warning that those who give up freedom for security "will have neither."

Most of the 24 veterans getting medals had earned them in Vietnam or Korea, both undeclared wars of the type, like the current war in Iraq, that Paul has opposed.

But the veterans gave him a warm welcome anyway.

"We may not always agree with you on legislation," Dr. Peter Riesz said to Paul as he presented Paul an engraved stone from a Normandy beach in commemoration of the D-Day invasion, "but we do appreciate your strong support of veterans."

Victoria County Judge Donald Pozzi, who was there to receive four medals for his service in Vietnam, said Paul's opposition to almost all governmental programs sometimes raises the ire of local politicians.

Those votes have earned Paul the nickname of "Doctor No."

At the same time, Pozzi said, "his office has often been very helpful when we call on them for assistance. We've gotten help on FEMA issues and veteran issues."


Friends and enemies

For many at the medals ceremony it was much more basic.

"I tried with the Army to get my medals for 39 years," said Louis Hodges Jr. of Seadrift. "It took Ron Paul's office three weeks to get them for me."

Paul is a veteran himself. It was the Air Force that first brought him to Texas in 1963. He had grown up in Pittsburgh and attended Duke Medical School. The Air Force sent him to Kelly Air Force Base near San Antonio to be a flight surgeon.

In 1968, his medical education finished, he heard that the only obstetrician/gynecologist in Brazoria County was retiring. He and his wife, Carol, moved to Lake Jackson. In the years since, he's delivered more than 4,000 babies, and he has five children of his own.

His stand that the U.S. should abolish income taxes, foreign aid, stay out of foreign wars, go back on a commodity-based money standard and do away with most governmental programs has won friends and enemies.

"I think he's right on everything," said Philip Spenrath, the mayor of the Wharton County town of El Campo, who also teaches government and coaches high school basketball. "I admire the way he stands up for the Constitution," he said while waiting after the medals ceremony to meet Paul.

Other local officials don't always share the same opinion. Joe King, county judge of Paul's home county of Brazoria, wouldn't even talk about the congressman. "Let's just say we have a difference of philosophical views and leave it at that," King said.

Galveston County Judge James Yarbrough said he once introduced Paul to a gathering that included a lot of NASA-related engineers and other officials. "He told them right away that he has always voted against their programs," Yarbrough said. "He doesn't mind telling what he thinks about an issue, even though the crowd hearing it might not like it."


Defying the critics

But Paul has plenty of critics.

After Paul said in a recent GOP presidential debate that terrorists attacked the United States because U.S. military forces have been active for years in the Middle East, Michigan GOP Chairman Saul Anuzis said Paul's remarks were "off the wall and out of whack," adding, "I think he would have felt more comfortable on the stage with the Democrats in what he said."

Former Paul aide Eric Dondero wrote, as he announced plans to run against Paul for the House seat in 2008, "My former boss looked like a complete nut case."

Still, Paul has reported raising nearly $2.4 million from April through June and $3 million for the year, while spending $646,000, according to financial reports to the Federal Election Commission.

As he stood cheerfully with veterans and their families for photographs, Carol Paul stood smiling and waiting. The couple recently celebrated their 50th anniversary.

A Ron Paul White House would be lively, she laughed. "We'd have all our 18 grandkids running around the place."

Chronicle reporter Harvey Rice contributed to this report.

richard.stewart@chron.com
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