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Thursday, May 24, 2007
GOP opponent assigns Giuliani homework
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Texas Rep. Ron Paul questioned former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's qualifications to be president Thursday, suggesting he would not support him unless he'd read several specific books and "report back to me."
"No, I don't think he's qualified to be president mainly because of his views," Paul said of his fellow Republican presidential contender during a press conference he called "Educating Rudy." "And no, unless he would read the books and report back to me and say, you know, you've changed my mind -- then I would reconsider."
Paul said he thinks Giuliani is simply misinformed about foreign policy and terrorism. He suggested that the former mayor read four books: "Imperial Hubris" by Michael Scheuer, "Dying to Win" by Robert Pape, "Blowback" by Chalmers Johnson and the 9/11 Commission Report. Paul was joined by Scheuer, the former head of the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit.
Giuliani and Paul got into a spat at the last Republican presidential debate, after Paul said America's foreign policy in the Middle East directly led to the September 11 attacks -- comments that Giuliani called "absurd."
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I don't know what I think about Ron Paul, but I know that the North American Union idea scares me to death. We as citizens must do all we can to stand against it and retain the sovereignity of the United States.
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He's a stanch pro life guy, he'd do everything under the sun to overtun Roe V Wade.
I could be ok with that on it's own, not a fan but I'm ok with it but he's for school prayer too..... ok that's strike two.
He says all the right things economically, his idea of foreign policy is spot on.
He's been linked to the John Birch society, that's a foul ball at least.
We'll see I guess.
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I'd vote for the guy but let's be realistic he's too good.
There's no way in heck.
I don't agree on his abortion stance but good lord who cares, that's not the worst issue facing this country point blank, it's just not.
Actually although I don't agree, the fact he's an OBGYN, well it's just consistent with his belief set, he's not demagoging it and I've said all along Roe V Wade is just a piss poor solution to a stalemate situation.
Realistically one man like him cannot make a difference even if he won he'd get overidden on a daily basis, if he won they'd run over him like a Mac truck, by day 3 they'd convince every old person that he wanted to repeal SSI, drug benefits the whole shebang and honestly that's what he'd effectively be trying to do.
The only way he could make a difference is to start a third party, it's the only way, because if he dosen't have congressional power behind him it means nothing, the guy is anti everything that government has become, there is no way in heck government is going to work with him unless voters literally stand in the halls of congress and scream at these guys.
I'm afraid things are going to have to become much worse before people wake up enough to stop the onslaught of our government gone amok, and realistically again by that time I'd imagine the whole thing will slide down the authoritarian chute because the problems are going to be so bad we'll let them.
Old people ironically enough don't seem to realize that if they don't act soon, the government will just inflate the economy to the point that their pension is meaningless and it'll get stolen from them by politicians claiming to help, if the government lies about the inflation rate and the yearly increase in SSI is tied to the core inflation rate then the government will solve the SSI problem without ever offending the AARP, nifty and sad.
It's in everyone's best interest to vote for the guy but seeing that takes some thought, I'd say it's too hard to get there for too many.
The callers didn't know about a lot of his stands, once they know they'll think twice, dems are going to hate his abortion stand, his stand on education, the whole lot, Republicans are brainwashed by the neocons, it's just not very hopefull.
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At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
I would agree that it is not very likely that he will be elected or be able to change much if he is.
His ideas and the truth in his statements are more important than he is quite frankly.
I am just excited that for the first time in my voting life there is a candidate on the stage and on the radio that isn't just spewing a constant line of BS.
Personally, I don't care if he gets the nomination or not, I am just going to write him in. Nobody else even comes close.
I have no illusions that he is some messiah or has all the answers but his ideas about liberty and the proper role of the government need to be spread as far and wide as possible.
If people like inflation, taxes, preemptive war, and the political status quo they should vote for anyone else.
Basically, we need about 400 more people like him in Congress.
I'd settle for 100. I'd be happy with 20. If that is all that comes about from his running then it is a good thing.
If, by miracle of miracles he not only won the nomination but the White House, yes he would not get anything done BUT I think there would be enormous backlash against the Congress by the people. They wouldn't blame a Paul president. Of course, I don't see him getting there though he or someone like him SHOULD be there.
In all honesty though, he better serves the interest of liberty from the congress and not from the executive branch...getting more like minded individuals in there should be the ultimate goal.
He's got my vote in the Rep primary...there is NOBODY in that group more qualified or that is actually a conservative.
I would agree that it is not very likely that he will be elected or be able to change much if he is.
His ideas and the truth in his statements are more important than he is quite frankly.
I am just excited that for the first time in my voting life there is a candidate on the stage and on the radio that isn't just spewing a constant line of BS.
Personally, I don't care if he gets the nomination or not, I am just going to write him in. Nobody else even comes close.
I have no illusions that he is some messiah or has all the answers but his ideas about liberty and the proper role of the government need to be spread as far and wide as possible.
If people like inflation, taxes, preemptive war, and the political status quo they should vote for anyone else.
He should be running a massive internet drive in Iowa, complete with a registration drive/primer on how to do it, his chance is to get young voters to vote in enough numbers he shows up in the mix, the resulting press could get him started.
I think it'd be hilarous to see him face off against Congress, in fact the more I think about the dynamics the more he'd get done just by being a brick wall they'd have to climb to spend money.
Whatever happens, he needs to start a third party, no one else could write a platform that would be as attractive, he should be THE face of one.
I'm not just going to vote for him, I'm going to donate money and I'll do what I can.
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At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
~Abraham Lincoln Lyceum Address
Last edited by conraddobler; June 22nd, 2007 at 07:18 PM.
I'm on his bandwagon. I talk him up whenever I can. It's a long shot but I belive he could get this country back on the right track. Both of the current partys are totally out of control.
So since the Iowans for Tax Relief didn't invite him to their caucus (saying he is "not a credible candidate," though credible candidate Duncan Hunter is invited) he is holding a rally immediately afterwards. Iowans are trying to get big attendance at it.
Oh, and the guy who basically said he can't be on the panel is a senior advisor for the McCain campaign. WTF? Iowans for TAX RELIEF? And Paul isn't credible in their eyes, or not credible through the McCain-colored glasses? I'm guessing the latter, especially when Duncan freaking Hunter is going to be on the stage.
I hope the rally comes off hugely successful ...I'll be interested to see how this goes down on June 30th. And how it is covered/spun by the media.
So since the Iowans for Tax Relief didn't invite him to their caucus (saying he is "not a credible candidate," though credible candidate Duncan Hunter is invited) he is holding a rally immediately afterwards. Iowans are trying to get big attendance at it.
Oh, and the guy who basically said he can't be on the panel is a senior advisor for the McCain campaign. WTF? Iowans for TAX RELIEF? And Paul isn't credible in their eyes, or not credible through the McCain-colored glasses? I'm guessing the latter, especially when Duncan freaking Hunter is going to be on the stage.
I hope the rally comes off hugely successful ...I'll be interested to see how this goes down on June 30th. And how it is covered/spun by the media.
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