September 6th, 2007, 01:40 AM
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Repubs only: Are you a Ron Paul Republican?
Do you favor small government?
Do you favor low to no taxes?
Do you want foreign policy to intervene in other countries?
Do you want States to have more say in the issues that divide us?
Do you want to fight terrorists, instead of fear?
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September 6th, 2007, 01:48 AM
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Yes, it is a skewed poll, but ffs, Ron Paul Republicans are what is right in the party right now.
The rest are a bunch of sycophants to Bush and his crew. This election is a MESS!!!!! I will be voting Obama in the general election if Paul isn't there, because at least he feels the government is screwed from the foundation.
If anyone has the balls to look at how they think about the issues, they would say Ron Paul's idealogy is the best...even if they don't like the guy.
Gather Ron Paul Republicans...let's form our own group (like the gay republicans have the Log Cabin group) and let's move forward!!
I'm not voting for any of the three other choice in this poll..even if they make the general election...I don't want to keep stepping forward in this direction. I want to put my foot in a new, potentially important direction.
Ugh...have the Republicans lost their way entirely?? Will centrist Democrats become the face of the future Republican party? Only time will tell...but the right wing's status quo is out of touch with America.
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September 6th, 2007, 05:58 AM
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I would vote Obama, Paul, Romney in that order. The difference between 1 and 2 is great, and the difference between Paul and Romney is even greater.
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September 6th, 2007, 06:25 AM
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Ron Paul has brought me back to the Republican Party after 10 years. To me he represents a candidate that finally walks the walk.
I really never thought I would come back.
The left and right wings of the big government party are driving this country into the ground to the tune of 8.9 trillion and counting.
Add to that 40-50 trillion in unfunded obligations and you have a real hard time coming not only for my generation but my kids and potential grandkids.
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September 6th, 2007, 06:36 AM
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Im concerned. When there was a legitimate middle class, I was all for small government, but the heavy handed tactics of our two party system has esentially wiped out the middle class and history is showing us that very rich people are more likely to "trickle down" their economics with to other wealthy institutions like Harvard, or museums, or what have you. NOT the people who need the infusion the most, and are arguably just as deserving of the handout. Im scared to admit, but it seems like bigger heavy handed government is needed right now until some sort of a semblance of the middle class is restored. (Granted I dont know how to do this). If we go hard core deregulated now we will only accelerate the alarming rate at which the rich get richer and the poor get poorer in the country.
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September 6th, 2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by schutd
Im concerned. When there was a legitimate middle class, I was all for small government, but the heavy handed tactics of our two party system has esentially wiped out the middle class and history is showing us that very rich people are more likely to "trickle down" their economics with to other wealthy institutions like Harvard, or museums, or what have you. NOT the people who need the infusion the most, and are arguably just as deserving of the handout. Im scared to admit, but it seems like bigger heavy handed government is needed right now until some sort of a semblance of the middle class is restored. (Granted I dont know how to do this). If we go hard core deregulated now we will only accelerate the alarming rate at which the rich get richer and the poor get poorer in the country.
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This fear talking over reason.
Big heavy handed government and big business/big money go hand in hand.
Do we have a lack of heavy handed government? Seriously?
Big government didn't create the middle class and they can't restore it.
The middle class is being squeezed by taxes, regulation, and inflation. All are results of big government.
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September 6th, 2007, 07:31 AM
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I tend to agree with you, but a ruling upper class left unfettered certainly isnt going to do their part to help restore it either.
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September 6th, 2007, 07:38 AM
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The system doesn't work.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks
I would vote Obama, Paul, Romney in that order. The difference between 1 and 2 is great, and the difference between Paul and Romney is even greater.
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Obama then Paul? The two are polar opposites as far as policy goes. The only similarity between the two is there opposition on Iraq. Both oppose it for different reasons. Bigger government vs. significantly smaller government. I just don't see how someone could like both of their platforms at the same time. 
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September 6th, 2007, 08:15 AM
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A Whole New World
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Originally Posted by Djaughe
Ideology can only carry one so far till gravity takes over. The thought of having the oldest president elect (73) in the history of the U.S. makes me a bit uncomfortable.
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That's why this poll is not about are you going to vote for him or not.
Or about him as President.
But rather, his view on things.
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September 6th, 2007, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Folster
Obama then Paul? The two are polar opposites as far as policy goes. The only similarity between the two is there opposition on Iraq. Both oppose it for different reasons. Bigger government vs. significantly smaller government. I just don't see how someone could like both of their platforms at the same time. 
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It isn't about policy at that point. It is about governmental philosophy...namely, that the way it works right now doesn't work. I don't care for Obama's platform so much as I do his philosophy on change being needed.
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September 6th, 2007, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by schutd
I tend to agree with you, but a ruling upper class left unfettered certainly isnt going to do their part to help restore it either.
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We are getting ripped off and screwed over every which way possible.
Bigger government isn't going to solve it. In reality they will make it worse.
When enough of the people stand up and say enough is enough that is when we can start to turn this thing around.
In Ron Paul the people have someone that is spreading the message and all accross the country people are responding.
Secure the border, reduce spending and inefficent buearucracy, eliminate the income tax, stop policing the world, stop sending billions to prop up other countries, eliminate inflation and the boom and bust cycle with sound money.
Will it be enough? Will enough people respond? I am not sure.
I do know that this message sure beats continuing the status quo.
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September 6th, 2007, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Djaughe
That's why I responded to your second post and not your poll. Ron Paul is perhaps the only candidate that doesn’t have to issue any apologies on his record.
However - that doesn't translate into being the immediate face for the republican party.
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Then I still don't understand your comment about his age...
It seemed that you were adressi..oh whatever. 
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September 6th, 2007, 09:25 AM
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I'm Coming for YOU!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schutd
When there was a legitimate middle class,
has esentially wiped out the middle class
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WOW!
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September 6th, 2007, 10:16 AM
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First, I wouldn't call holding a house seat a marathon, how many months do they get off a year? They show up for votes about as much as a high school senior with a passing grade
Finally, there is plenty of time to sit and do nothing when you're president:

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September 6th, 2007, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Djaughe
Pretty much is he physically capable to continue his view on issues while completing three back-to-back marathons:
1. Holding his house seat
2. Campaigning for President
3. Completing 4 and possibly 8 years as President.
All of this without a noticeable degradation of energy, mental awareness or temperament?
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Ah, I see. You are going off topic..well played and a move I myself often do.  .
I was hoping to have everyone only think of him in terms of his viewpoint on the issues, and not as a candidate whose viability brings up other questions. Which is why "Ron Paul Republicans" is more of an explanation of a shared viewpoint rather than a Ron Paul Supporter planning to vote for him.
In other words, separating the viewpoints from the man. Basically, import his brain into your stereotypical "electable" candidate, a good looking, confident 45 year old guy.
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