My Opinion: McCain camp encouraging assasination attempt on Obama - Page 12

Jughead · October 17th, 2008, 07:01 PM

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MyFox Orlando | Girl called racist for wearing Palin t-shirt

She's only 12 years old but Central Florida 7th grader Ashleigh Jones is ... School was called a racist by classmates for wearing a pro-Sarah Palin t-shirt. ...

LoyaltyisaCurse · October 17th, 2008, 08:46 PM

Jughead, this is the type of stuff I am talking about, if you dont think Team McCain and the RNC are not acting dangerously and irresponsbily with their claims take a look and get back to me:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_135735.html

Jughead · October 17th, 2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LoyaltyisaCurse

Jughead, this is the type of stuff I am talking about, if you dont think Team McCain and the RNC are not acting dangerously and irresponsbily with their claims take a look and get back to me:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_135735.html

I watched the video...obviously you didn't ...Sure you may have read the article.

But the video isn't as dramatic as the huff article...when I see the full 10 minute interview - I see Mathews trying to steer her to call liberals anti-American...when that was NOT her intent. First of all she should have focused the Ayers association when they were on the same board...the 8 year old stuff is silly.

I can accept the fact that you and I don't see things all the time - but saying that the McCain and the RNC is acting dangerously by engaging in a type of McCarthyism is way off base.

Bachmann layed it out for the media to do their own research after Mathews (no secret he leans to the left) tried to force her to say something stupid.

That robocall is no different than when I worked for the Obama camp in which they were pushing us to call folks claiming that Hillary Clinton was a warmonger that believed in cluster bombing children.

btw...For the record I don't know of any anti American members of Congress.

KloD · October 17th, 2008, 10:07 PM

What??? You worked for a guy who pals around with America hating terrorists? I think everyone needs to ask the tough questions, why is the ASFN media ignoring this obviously close relationship?

Jughead · October 17th, 2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KloD

What??? You worked for a guy who pals around with America hating terrorists? I think everyone needs to ask the tough questions, why is the ASFN media ignoring this obviously close relationship?

lol!

If it mean's anything my stay didn't last long.

LoyaltyisaCurse · October 17th, 2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead

I watched the video...obviously you didn't ...Sure you may have read the article.

But the video isn't as dramatic as the huff article...when I see the full 10 minute interview - I see Mathews trying to steer her to call liberals anti-American...when that was NOT her intent. First of all she should have focused the Ayers association when they were on the same board...the 8 year old stuff is silly.

I can accept the fact that you and I don't see things all the time - but saying that the McCain and the RNC is acting dangerously by engaging in a type of McCarthyism is way off base.

Bachmann layed it out for the media to do their own research after Mathews (no secret he leans to the left) tried to force her to say something stupid.

That robocall is no different than when I worked for the Obama camp in which they were pushing us to call folks claiming that Hillary Clinton was a warmonger that believed in cluster bombing children.

btw...For the record I don't know of any anti American members of Congress.

No, I watched the whole interview and the subsequent interview below at the bottom of the page.

Bachman knows exactly what she is insinuating and Matthews was exploring the depth of her claims as far as I am concerned. She did use Anti-American, Liberal, and Far-left pretty interchangeabley (BIM?). And she very directly called Obama Anti-American...

UncleChris · October 17th, 2008, 11:44 PM

"I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out if they are pro-America or anti-America," she said.

Yeah..... that's pretty open to interpretation, isn't it.....

What she said is indefensible. Hopefully it was bad enough that her opponent can run her out of D.C. We DO NOT need people of that mentality in government.

wallyburger · October 18th, 2008, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AZZenny

Ayers has nothing to do with racism, so that's irrelevant.

I wouldn't approach it either, partly because there's nothing there, despite all the huffing and puffing. (Unless you also want to call for the Illinois Board of Regents to fire the presidents of two Universities.) The guy was selected by a friend of Ronald Reagan, so get over it.

The other reason to stay away from it is because the candidate who stops trying to smear the other guy and purely talks issues will have the greater appeal right now, and the McCain people are clueless to think nasty approaches will win them new or undecided voters.

All it does is inflame their already mindless devotees, and disturb the more sensible and moderate McCain supporters.

If the McCain staff realizes that they are pushing a rope up a hill and still engage in this fractionalizing campaign I can deduce they are only attempting to keep the remaining base stoked for some future agenda.

cardsfanmd · October 18th, 2008, 06:25 AM

How on earth can the OP expect anyone to take them seriously when they put up stuff like this??

nidan · October 18th, 2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Louis

he said he had “found out they were human beings, too.”

I have no answer for this, how disgusted I am that a person can think this way.

LoyaltyisaCurse · October 19th, 2008, 08:55 PM

More hate from McCain folks:

More Hate Voicemails directed at ACORN.

By John Amato Sunday Oct 19, 2008 7:01pm

(Warning. Vile audio above) Since John McCain decided to jump on the Limbaugh/Hannity hate-fest directed at ACORN to try and help his campaign, we've seen violent and disgusting rhetoric directed at ACORN. As we've written about many times before, right wing talk radio is producing a very destructive strain of American citizens. Of course, not every person that listens to their shows becomes psychos, but a good many certainly are trending in that direction.
Right Wing Watch has the audio:
And for nearly two weeks, ACORN offices across the nation have been subjected to an onslaught of racist and threatening voicemails and emails. We have secured copies of some of the most disturbing and offensive messages and have reproduced them below in order to show the very real consequences of the Right Wing’s overheated and misplaced “voter fraud” rhetoric.

“Hi, I was just calling to let you all know that Barack Obama needs to get hung. He's a fu*&ing ni**er, and he's a piece of ****. You guys are fraudulent, and you need to go to hell. All the ni*&ers on oak trees. They're gonna get all hung honeys, they're gonna get assassinated, they're gonna get killed.”

And then we have this one:

"You liberal idiots. Dumb shits. Welfare bums. You guys just f&*king come to our country, consume every natural resource there is, and make a lot of babies. That's all you guys do. And then suck up the welfare and expect everyone else to pay for your hospital bills for your kids. I just say let your kids die. That's the best move. Just let your children die. Forget about paying for hospital bills for them. I'm not gonna do it. You guys are lowlifes. And I hope you all die."

Actual violent actions are coming so be prepared. RWW's title says it all: Hate You Can Believe In.

LoyaltyisaCurse · October 19th, 2008, 09:00 PM

Here is another one:

Obama Hung In Effigy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_135971.html

Edit: And yes there is an Obama idiot in the video too... But my point remains.

UncleChris · October 19th, 2008, 09:02 PM

Welcome to America.... Land of tolerance....

Divide Et Impera · October 19th, 2008, 09:06 PM

The title of this article alone captures the essence of what's going on. This is some great analysis from across the pond....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...n-barack-obama

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The Republicans have lifted the lid off their rightwing id

Now McCain's supporters are casting Obama as anti-American. This may well scare voters, but not the way they mean to

Michael Tomasky
The Guardian, Monday October 20 2008
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A year or two ago, if you'd told me that Barack Obama would be leading John McCain by a seemingly comfortable margin with two weeks to go and asked me what, in their desperation, the Republicans would be talking about to try and scare my fellow Americans into voting against him, I'd have said race. After all, Republicans have race-baited in one form or other in most of our presidential contests since Richard Nixon's time, so it would have seemed impossible to me that they'd miss the chance to do so at a time when Democrats had actually gone to the trouble of nominating an African-American candidate.

It's true that we're hearing racial-code talk here and there. But the main fear tactic being employed now is something else. It's that Obama and his associates - and for that matter his supporters and even the regions of the country that he's destined to carry - are anti-American.'
Last Friday, in North Carolina, Sarah Palin told a rally that she was proud to be "with all of you hard-working, very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation". She means here of course that there are anti-American areas of America, and they are where the liberals live, and the people there are voting for Mr Anti-America.

This was especially interesting coming from a woman whose husband, Todd Palin, was until just six years ago an enrolled member of a rightwing fringe political party that wanted the state of Alaska to secede from the US. But if you understand rightwing logic, then you'd know that Mr Palin had no choice but to join the Alaska Independence party in 1995, because by that time the America he thought he knew and loved had been brought to ruin by the liberals and socialists and America-haters. See?

Likewise, earlier this month, Joe McCain, the brother of John, said that Alexandria and Arlington, the two major cities in the northern Virginia suburbs that lie just across the Potomac River from Washington, were "communist country" as far as he was concerned. His brother lives in Arlington when in the nation's capital for work, and his brother's campaign is headquartered there as well, but never mind. A McCain spokeswoman offered a wan apology at the time, but lo and behold, just last Saturday a different McCain spokes-woman said on television that while Obama would perform well in northern Virginia, "the rest of the state - real Virginia if you will - I think will be very responsive to Senator McCain's message". This did not seem a planned one-liner. The spokeswoman made the fatal error of saying what she actually thinks. Republican Virginia equals real Virginia. Democratic Virginia is alien and impure.

Do you folks do this sort of thing in Britain? I know there's something about the chap on the Clapham omnibus who's supposed to represent some kind of middling everyman. And I know you've got your xenophobes just like we do. But trust me. You don't have a right wing that's anything like our right wing.

This point was proved most dramatically by a woman named Michele Bachmann, a member of Congress from Minnesota. In an interview last Friday on Hardball, a leading US cable talk show, host Chris Matthews asked Bachmann whether Obama worried her. "Absolutely. I'm very concerned that he may have anti-American views," she said. He asked her what she thought distinguished liberal from hard left from anti-American. If she maintains such distinctions in her mind, she refused to acknowledge them. Then, finally, Matthews - who deftly fed her the rope to hang herself - asked her how many members of the US Congress held, in her view, anti-American views.

It's been almost a two-year campaign. There have been moments we've thought of as memorable, only to see the tide of events erase their mark from the sand. Bachmann's answer, however, will live imperishably: "What I would say - what I would say is that the news media should do a penetrating exposé and take a look. I wish they would. I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out, are they pro-America or anti-America? I think people would love to see an exposé like that."

Before we go any further - who is this Bachmann? She's a first-term backbencher from exurban Minneapolis who says the Lord told her to run for Congress. She declared herself "a fool for Christ" in 2006 when she announced her candidacy. By all accounts she's down with the whole rightwing Christian package: immigrants bring disease and pestilence, homosexuals want to indoctrinate straight children, and so on. Republican leadership undoubtedly pushed her out on to television because she is, as you Brits say, a looker - at least by the standards of Congress.

The call for an investigation into the beliefs of every federal lawmaker, and an exposé of those found wanting in their patriotism, certainly takes us into deeply creepy territory. I would not call Bachmann herself a fascist. Odd as it sounds, to do so would be to grant her far too much credit. For one to embrace an -ism, even a repugnant one, one needs to have read a certain amount of history and political philosophy. Bachmann is just an idiot. She wouldn't know Edmund Burke from Billie Burke (she played the good witch in the Wizard of Oz), and she obviously has no idea that, in her rejection of the two bedrock American principles of separation of church and state and freedom of thought, she is the one who is as anti-American as they come.

But friends, all is not darkness. Bachmann's appearance caused a national uproar. Colin Powell, in endorsing Obama yesterday, said of Bachmann's comments that "we have got to stop this kind of nonsense and pull ourselves together". Her Democratic opponent raised nearly half a million dollars from around the country in just 24 hours, and he now has a chance of beating her.

That would be nice. But let's go back to the big contest. With Bachmann, the lid came off the rightwing id. It will happen many more times over these next two weeks. McCain, now openly using the word "socialist" to describe Obama's proposals (the week after his friend George W Bush took federal control of nine major banks!), and especially Palin have shown every sign of encouraging it. Their goal is to scare Americans about Obama, but moderate, independent voters might well decide that Obama looks a lot less scary than they do.

DWKB · October 20th, 2008, 11:39 AM

I can't view the video at work, but the caption says:

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At a John McCain rally in Woodbridge, Virginia, three people handed out "Obama for Change" bumper stickers with the Communist sickle and hammer and the Islamic crescent, saying Obama was a socialist with ties to radical Islam. Several moderate McCain supporters, Muslim and Christian alike, struck back - relentlessly bombarding the group distributing the flyers until they left the premises.

http://newsproject.org/videos/158

A good thing to hear that the reasonable people are taking it to the idiot mouth breathers.