Enjoy an Ads-Free ASFN - lighter and faster too! Become an ASFN-Contributor and help support the site.
Go Back   Arizona Sports Fans Network > Other Stuff > Politics and Religion > 2008 Presidential Election

Welcome to ASFN Fan Forums! We're glad to have you here. Please feel free to browse the forum. We'd like to invite you to join our community; doing so will enable you to view additional forums and post with our other members.


Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old May 26th, 2008, 08:18 AM   #1
arthurracoon
The Cardinal Smiles
 
arthurracoon's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Tucson/PHX AZ
Posts: 15,423
A$FN: 12,500

Libertarians pick Bob Barr to run for president


http://www.ajc.com/r/content/news/st...ians_0526.html
Candidate from Georgia says he's not trying to be GOP 'spoiler'

Denver — Georgia's Bob Barr won a long and tense battle Sunday for the 2008 Libertarian Party's presidential nomination and now faces the daunting task of doing what no third-party candidate has done: Win in November.

It took six ballots and nearly five hours of voting at the Libertarian National Convention before the former four-term congressman defeated Texas business consultant Mary Ruwart for the party's bid.

Barr, who until 2006 was a Republican, took 54 percent of the vote after Las Vegas odds-maker Wayne Allyn Root dropped out following the fifth ballot and endorsed Barr. Delegates subsequently selected Root to be Barr's running mate.

"Y'all party today," Barr told the more than 600 delegates at the Sheraton Hotel. "I hope we celebrate, because I'm sure we'll all leave here with the strongest ticket in the history of the Libertarian Party."

Barr emphasized that only 163 days remain until the Nov. 4 general election.

"Do not waste one single day," Barr said.

In a news conference following the nominating vote, Barr's campaign manager, Russell Verney, said the candidate's headquarters would be Atlanta and that the campaign hopes to raise $30 million to battle Republican nominee-in-waiting John McCain and whichever Democrat emerges with that party's nomination.

Barr, 59, said the Libertarian Party anticipates being on the ballot in at least 48 states, but work remains to be done in 20 of those to ensure access. Oklahoma and West Virginia remain obstacles, he said.

Neither Barr nor Verney would say which states they believe they can be most competitive in, but Barr said his home state should be considered in play.

"If by 'in play' you mean winning Georgia, yes, we will certainly work toward that end," Barr said. "There are already some areas in some states we are looking at prioritizing our efforts."

Both men agreed that the first steps of the campaign will be to establish the Atlanta campaign headquarters, fill out the campaign team and begin working with the national party to secure ballot access in as many states as possible.

Barr said he anticipates qualifying for the national presidential debates this fall.

Barr had to overcome the objections of many Libertarians who viewed him as an interloper and who questioned his commitment to Libertarian ideals.

Ruwart said Barr had not embraced fully the Libertarian message on key party issues, such as the legalization of all drugs or the ending of all federal taxation.

Georgia had 35 delegates at the convention, and 33 voted for Barr on all six ballots. Two went for Root.

Georgia delegate James Bell, who supported Barr, said the outcome was never certain.

"I don't take anything for granted in the Libertarian Party convention, because there's no preconceived notion of what could happen, unlike the Democrats and Republicans. It's a genuine process," Bell said.

In the end, enough delegates saw a chance with Barr to take the party to new heights.

Having someone with Barr's relatively high profile "means great things for the Libertarian Party," national party spokesman Andrew Davis said. "It means the best year the Libertarian Party has ever had in its 35-year history."

A former federal prosecutor, Barr represented the northwest suburbs of Atlanta for four terms in Congress after his election in 1994. He gained national attention for his role in President Clinton's impeachment proceedings.

In 2002, Barr left his district, moving to the district of a popular Republican colleague, Rep. John Linder. Barr challenged Linder in that year's primary and lost.

Barr announced his candidacy for the Libertarian presidential nomination just three weeks ago. On Sunday, he reiterated that he would campaign to win, not just to affect the outcome by siphoning votes from the other parties' nominees.

"I am a competitor, and I am in this to win," Barr said. "I do not view the role of the Libertarian Party as spoiler, and I have no intention of being a spoiler."

Several pollsters included Barr in recent surveys about November's general election.

Barr got 7 percent against Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain, according to a poll Barr's exploratory committee commissioned from Pulse Opinion Strategies in early April. A poll by Rasmussen Reports from earlier this month showed Barr getting 6 percent nationally.

No Libertarian candidate for president has ever done that well. In 1980, Libertarian Edward Clark won 1.06 percent of the vote, and his 921,128 votes were the most ever for a Libertarian.
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
__________________
Signed,

arthurpostpadder

arthurracoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 10:34 AM   #2
carrrnuttt
b-balllnuttt
 
carrrnuttt's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 597
A$FN: 1,175
If Ron Paul endorses him, I will be voting for him. Too bad RP is a man of his word, and he promised that he wouldn't run against the Republican party.
__________________
carrrnuttt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 10:59 AM   #3
Donald
NFC West Champs!
 
Donald's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Doused in Gatorade
Posts: 31,760
A$FN: 2,872
Send a message via MSN to Donald
The Libertarians tried hard to get RP to run, but he said he would not. However, he is very complimentary to Barr.
__________________
I'm the anti-TNT. I don't do drama.
Donald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 11:07 AM   #4
Shane H
It's Cardinal RED
 
Shane H's Avatar
 
Space Invaders Champion!
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 25,829
A$FN: 8,500,000
They should just save their money or donate it to charity.
__________________
“They said the road comes through Seattle. We came through here and took care of business.” Anquan Boldin




Shane H is online now   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 11:35 AM   #5
LacardJoe67
Tampa or bust!
 
LacardJoe67's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: who wants to know?
Posts: 2,194
A$FN: 1,404
Quote:
Originally Posted by carrrnuttt View Post
If Ron Paul endorses him, I will be voting for him. Too bad RP is a man of his word, and he promised that he wouldn't run against the Republican party.
LMAO! So you following your heart or waiting on who RP endorses?
__________________
If your sword's too short, add to its length by taking one step forward.
LacardJoe67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 11:41 AM   #6
Pariah
H.S.
 
Pariah's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Aventine
Posts: 28,605
A$FN: 41,963
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane H View Post
They should just save their money or donate it to charity.
Why? Is that what every political underdog should do? Why not work within the system to try to get the government they want?

Barr obviously won't win, but the more people realize there are more options, more ideas, more ways a government can function, the better.
__________________
America cannot have an empire abroad and a Republic at home.
Pariah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 11:45 AM   #7
40yearfan
Takin' a bite outa the Niners
 
40yearfan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Buckeye, AZ.
Posts: 24,194
A$FN: 7,001
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donald View Post
The Libertarians tried hard to get RP to run, but he said he would not. However, he is very complimentary to Barr.
This is to his credit Donald. Believe me. There is no way he can win running as a 3rd party candidate and he knows it. He built up a lot of good will during this election cycle and he's still young enough to be able to cash it in at a later date.
40yearfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 02:15 PM   #8
Shane H
It's Cardinal RED
 
Shane H's Avatar
 
Space Invaders Champion!
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 25,829
A$FN: 8,500,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pariah View Post
Why? Is that what every political underdog should do? Why not work within the system to try to get the government they want?

Barr obviously won't win, but the more people realize there are more options, more ideas, more ways a government can function, the better.
Because no matter how much money they spend or how hard they try to get their name out there they will not EVER have a chance at changing anything. They just wont. Its nice to cling to the hope that they may change the system or they may effect change 20 years down the road. But in the end they wont.
__________________
“They said the road comes through Seattle. We came through here and took care of business.” Anquan Boldin




Shane H is online now   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 02:16 PM   #9
Pariah
H.S.
 
Pariah's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Aventine
Posts: 28,605
A$FN: 41,963
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane H View Post
Because no matter how much money they spend or how hard they try to get their name out there they will not EVER have a chance at changing anything. They just wont. Its nice to cling to the hope that they may change the system or they may effect change 20 years down the road. But in the end they wont.
Wow.
__________________
America cannot have an empire abroad and a Republic at home.
Pariah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 02:16 PM   #10
Pariah
H.S.
 
Pariah's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Aventine
Posts: 28,605
A$FN: 41,963
just wow.
__________________
America cannot have an empire abroad and a Republic at home.
Pariah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26th, 2008, 02:24 PM   #11
Shane H
It's Cardinal RED
 
Shane H's Avatar
 
Space Invaders Champion!
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 25,829
A$FN: 8,500,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pariah View Post
just wow.
__________________
“They said the road comes through Seattle. We came through here and took care of business.” Anquan Boldin




Shane H is online now   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 10:13 AM   #12
HeavyB3
Jaded with life
 
HeavyB3's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hicktown, AKA Buckeye, AZ
Posts: 5,148
A$FN: 76,175
I read his website and I like where he stands on some things. Cut government spending! I guess it's the republican in me to want a small government. Unfortunately, republican leaders don't even want that anymore.
HeavyB3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 01:36 PM   #13
Duckjake
Dansby Defender Campbell homer
 
Duckjake's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 10,918
A$FN: 1,100
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane H View Post
Because no matter how much money they spend or how hard they try to get their name out there they will not EVER have a chance at changing anything. They just wont. Its nice to cling to the hope that they may change the system or they may effect change 20 years down the road. But in the end they wont.
But they could. By taking the money they'll spend on the Quixotic Presidential Campaign and using it to buy politicians instead.
__________________
5-11 with 'em. 5-11 without 'em.
Duckjake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 03:51 PM   #14
40yearfan
Takin' a bite outa the Niners
 
40yearfan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Buckeye, AZ.
Posts: 24,194
A$FN: 7,001
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckjake View Post
But they could. By taking the money they'll spend on the Quixotic Presidential Campaign and using it to buy politicians instead.
Dj wins the prize as he just said the magic words.
40yearfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 03:51 PM   #15
da_suns_fan
Registered
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,020
A$FN: 1,100
Who?
da_suns_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
ron paul


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:44 PM.



Subscribe in a reader
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
Copyright © 2002 - 2006 ArizonaSportsFans.com
Inactive Reminders By Icora Web Design