It's over for Obama

Folster · January 10th, 2008, 09:40 AM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3695636.shtml

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John Kerry Endorses Barack Obama

(CBS/AP) Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, endorsed Sen. Barack Obama for the White House Thursday in a timely slap at Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as well as his own vice presidential running mate.

Quoting a black American hero in endorsing the man who hopes to be the first black president, Kerry declared, "Martin Luther King Jr. said the time is always right to do what is right. And I'm here in South Carolina because this is the right time to share with you, to make sure that we know that I have the confidence ... and that Barack Obama can be, will be and should be the next president of the United States."

"This is a well-timed endorsement for Obama," said CBSNews.com senior political editor Vaughn Ververs. "After an upset loss in New Hampshire, it helps to reinforce his effort and demonstrate his ability to still attract a measure of institutional support. While not all Democrats remember Kerry's 2004 campaign and defeat fondly, it never hurts to get the endorsement of your party's previous nominee."

Kerry delivered his endorsement in South Carolina at a time, two weeks before that state's primary, when Clinton is riding a wave of enthusiasm following her victory over Obama in the New Hampshire primary.

Kerry said there were other candidates in the race whom he also had worked with and respected.

"But I believe more than anyone else, Barack Obama can help our country turn the page and get America moving by uniting and ending the division we have faced," Kerry said.

Kerry took a swipe at Obama critics who say the Illinois senator lacks the experience to be president.

"We are electing judgment and character, not years on this earth," said Kerry, who added that Obama, an opponent of the Iraq war, was "right about the war in Iraq from the beginning."

Former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, the third contender in the Democratic presidential race, was Kerry's vice presidential running mate in 2004. Despite their political alliance, the two men were not close personally and differed behind the scenes on campaign strategy in a race that President Bush won.

Edwards responded to word of the endorsement with a diplomatic statement: "Our country and our party are stronger because of John's service, and I respect his decision. When we were running against each other and on the same ticket, John and I agreed on many issues."

Kerry was Obama's political benefactor once before, selecting the relatively unknown Illinois senatorial candidate to deliver the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston. It was Obama's first turn in the national spotlight and helped launch him on a remarkable ascent that has made him one of two leading contenders for the party's presidential nomination only four years later.

The Massachusetts senator lost the South Carolina Democratic primary in 2004 to Edwards.

Kerry and Edwards had their differences during the 2004 campaign over strategy and spending, and Edwards has said he would have been more aggressive in challenging the unsubstantiated allegations of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth questioning Kerry's military record.

Kerry's endorsement also was a jab at Clinton, the New York Democrat who won the New Hampshire primary after a loss to Obama in the Iowa caucuses.

Kerry had withheld his endorsement, hoping to have an impact on the race and avoid the fate of fellow Democrat Al Gore, the 2000 nominee who endorsed Howard Dean in 2004 shortly before the former Vermont governor's campaign imploded. Gore has made no endorsement so far this year.

While Kerry has been close to Clinton's husband, the former president, he was incensed in 2006 when she chided him after Kerry suggested that people who don't go to school "get stuck in Iraq." Aides said Kerry meant to jab at Bush and say "get us stuck in Iraq," and that he didn't appreciate Clinton piling onto the criticism he was already getting for the remark.

The Republican National Committee pounced on the endorsement to brand Kerry and Obama "liberal soul mates."

Kerry himself had considered running for president in 2008, but that plan fizzled with the botched remark. For many Democrats, his words revived bitter memories of his missteps in 2004, when he lost to Bush.

As for Obama, Kerry gave the young Illinois state senator his first turn in the national spotlight when he chose him to deliver the keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Later that year, Obama won election as a U.S. senator.

Since announcing a year ago he would not make the run, Kerry has prodded Democrats to take a stronger anti-war stance, pushing for troop withdrawal deadlines. In another area, he has backed environmental causes, writing a book with his wife on the issue.

Kerry should be able to provide some organizational and fundraising muscle to Obama.

Since losing the 2004 race, Kerry has kept a national network of supporters intact. He has an e-mail network of 3 million supporters, according to aides. He also has traveled extensively raising millions of dollars for Democratic candidates nationwide.

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The kiss of death. Funny how he doesn't endorse Obama before New Hamshire. IIRC, New Hampshire was a state that Kerry won in 2004. It's also right next door to his home state of Mass. He decides to endorse Obama before South Carolina, a state that I believe Kerry conceded to Edwards. Interesting strategy.

dreamcastrocks · January 10th, 2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Folster

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3695636.shtml
The kiss of death. Funny how he doesn't endorse Obama before New Hamshire. IIRC, New Hampshire was a state that Kerry won in 2004. It's also right next door to his home state of Mass. He decides to endorse Obama before South Carolina, a state that I believe Kerry conceded to Edwards. Interesting strategy.

its over for him now?

Obama doesn't have it in him to make the same kind of mistakes that Kerry made. Would it have been the same if Gore endorses him too?

Rivercard · January 10th, 2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

its over for him now?

A few days ago Republicans were saying Hillary was a dead duck.

dreamcastrocks · January 10th, 2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivercard

A few days ago Republicans were saying Hillary was a dead duck.

A lot changes for day to day, week to week this time of year.

Chris_Sanders · January 10th, 2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

its over for him now?

Obama doesn't have it in him to make the same kind of mistakes that Kerry made. Would it have been the same if Gore endorses him too?

Because appharently Kerry is the "Kiss of Death".

Yeah it's not like he ever won the primaries or anything. Like it or not Kerry's name still has some weight in Democratic Circles, just like Bush's does.

dreamcastrocks · January 10th, 2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris_Sanders

Because appharently Kerry is the "Kiss of Death".

Yeah it's not like he ever won the primaries or anything. Like it or not Kerry's name still has some weight in Democratic Circles, just like Bush's does.

He still has an online/email based support group upwards of 3M. It looks like krepitch is one of them.

Pariah · January 10th, 2008, 09:57 AM

I was listening to some Obama soundbites on the radio, and if it is over for him I think he could get voice-over work in Dwayne Johnson movies (He sounds a lot like The Rock).

dreamcastrocks · January 10th, 2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pariah

I was listening to some Obama soundbites on the radio, and if it is over for him I think he could get voice-over work in Dwayne Johnson movies (He sounds a lot like The Rock).

Can you smell what the Barack is cookin....

Linderbee · January 10th, 2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

Can you smell what the Barack is cookin....

2/5

Mulli · January 10th, 2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

Can you smell what the Barack is cookin....

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dreamcastrocks · January 10th, 2008, 10:07 AM

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oh, never claimed it my own. Just a perfect fit.

Mulli · January 10th, 2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

oh, never claimed it my own. Just a perfect fit.

You the man.

D-Dogg · January 10th, 2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Linderbee

2/5

No way. 3.5/5 easy.

dreamcastrocks · January 10th, 2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald

No way. 3.5/5 easy.

There is hope for you yet.

Linderbee · January 10th, 2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald

No way. 3.5/5 easy.

pfft. He's the one that is always so harsh in his assessments. I was just givin' it back to him. Had I been using my own ranking, it woulda been 4/5, but I'd have been accused of being biased.

Can't win.