December 12th, 2007, 12:38 PM
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Holy crap! Ron Paul's utter dominance....
http://www.nationalcaucus.com/120707...s_announcement
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National Presidential Caucus Announces Results From First-Ever National Caucus
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
National Presidential Caucus Announces Results From First-Ever National Caucus
-- Barack Obama Wins Democrat Caucuses; Ron Paul Dominates Both GOP And "Open" Caucuses --
Washington, DC (December 12, 2007) -- On December 7, 2007 in cities and small towns across the country, Democrat, Republican and "Open" Caucus groups formed independently online and Caucused face-to-face on National Caucus Day. The first-ever National Presidential Caucus is now history and the results are in.
Barack Obama wins over Democrat voters generating 40% of Democrat Caucus voter preferences. Obama was followed by a three-way tie for second, with John Edwards, Bill Richardson and "Undecided" each generating 20% of Democratic Caucus preferences.
On the Republican side, Ron Paul obliterated the field for the GOP generating the preference of 50% of GOP Caucuses. Mike Huckabee and Fred Thompson follow, generating 33.3% and 16.6% of Republican Caucus preferences, respectively.
Among votes in Open Caucuses, Ron Paul wins with 62.5% of Open Caucus votes, followed by Barack Obama (18.75%), Fred Thompson (12.5%), and Hilary Clinton (6.25%).
Results were tallied from 19 independently formed Caucus groups (Republican, Democrat, and Open) that met on Friday, December 7th, 2007 in Dallas, TX (2D); Sarcoxie, MO (O); Boise, ID (R); Needham, MA (D); Carthage, MO (O); Manhattan, KS (D & R); Pineville, MO (O); Richmond, MO (O); Costa Mesa, CA (O); Springfield MO (R); Winston-Salem, NC (O); Overland Park, KS (R); New York City, NY (O); and Joplin, MO (R), Warrensburg, MO (R), Roselle Park, NK (D), and Philadelphia, PA (O).
Some caucuses used multiple voting rounds with minimum vote thresholds to give citizens a chance to change their minds and switch candidate preferences, but all meetings were built on a first round of issue discussion and deliberation. Multiple rounds of voting were not prohibited and each group was encouraged to create the most engaging caucus format possible. However, threshold voting eliminates all but the top vote-getters. While that may have been the intention for some groups, the NPC feels obligated to recognize the efforts and opinions of all caucus goers.
Issue results reflected opposition to Iraq involvement, foreign intervention in general, and health care, immigration and erosion of civil liberties rounding out the top concerns of all caucusers.
Self-organized and independent, most gatherings were small, informal discussion sessions, while others attracted hundreds of participants including party officials and campaign operatives in a raucous bid for supporters. The NPC feels that the results at each caucus is of greatest importance and relevance to those in that caucus room and to that local community where those ideas were exchanged, relationships were created, passions were shared. We believe this is social capital formation at its finest.
The NPC was previewed by major media from CBS News, The Washington Post and The New York Times, among others. The actual Caucuses are receiving a fair amount of local attention from the mainstream media, including front page newspaper coverage in Greensboro, NC and TV coverage by WNBC news in NYC, the largest NBC affiliate in the nation.
But even better, people reported on their own caucus events. Using numerical reports, commentary, pictures & video, and through a growing number of blogs, each caucus tells its own story. Some reports from those who participated, include Kansas City: "Wow, what a great evening it was in Kansas City!"; New Jersey: "It was a fun night with close to 200 people participating in this exercise."; Chicago: "It was a very informative experience."; Boise, Idaho: "It was an extremely fun event..." Video footage is being compiled on the official National Presidential Caucus channel on YouTube. Visit http://www.youtube.com/NationalCaucus to view.
"The NPC wants to applaud everyone who took the time and made an effort to engage their neighbors in this evening of passionate civic discourse, said Don Means, NPC's primary organizer. "You have just ushered in a new era of participatory democracy in America. Your country should be proud of you!"
National Presidential Caucus is the product of a consortium of partisan, bi-partisan and non-partisan interests who seek to demonstrate how local, self-organized, web-enabled face-to-face gatherings is the new basis for participatory democracy. To view National Caucus endorsers visit: http://www.nationalcaucus.com/endorsements . For more information about the National Presidential Caucus vision visit: http://www.nationalcaucus.com/about
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December 12th, 2007, 12:43 PM
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A Whole New World
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He's been destroying in straw polls as well.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results
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Last edited by D-Dogg; December 12th, 2007 at 12:47 PM.
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December 12th, 2007, 12:46 PM
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A GE between Paul and Obama would be AWESOME for America....
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December 12th, 2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulli
What happened to Hillary? I see Obama and the three way tie. She lost to undecided?
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She lost to Oprah Winfrey.
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December 12th, 2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
She lost to Oprah Winfrey.
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So she got about six percent? Ouch.
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December 12th, 2007, 01:03 PM
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Is there any chance in hell that Paul gets the nom?
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December 12th, 2007, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by abomb
Is there any chance in hell that Paul gets the nom?
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That calls for a joke about the guy dying before the election. Can't do it.
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December 12th, 2007, 04:22 PM
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The Cardinal Smiles
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Originally Posted by Divide Et Impera
A GE between Paul and Obama would be AWESOME for America....
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December 31st, 2007, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by abomb
Is there any chance in hell that Paul gets the nom?
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Not if you believe in the American public, which I do.
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December 31st, 2007, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NightHawk11and81
Not if you believe in the American public, which I do.
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Let me see if I can translate: "I fear change."

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December 31st, 2007, 12:59 PM
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Ooh, let me translate as well. "I get my political ideas from Youtube." That felt good. 
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December 31st, 2007, 01:02 PM
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Last edited by Chaz; December 31st, 2007 at 01:16 PM.
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December 31st, 2007, 01:09 PM
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A Whole New World
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Originally Posted by Zebes
Ooh, let me translate as well. "I get my political ideas from Youtube." That felt good. 
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Oooh, let me translate. Youtube features the actual candidates actually talking about their positions, and that's why people know more about certain politicians' policies, and then back their candidates.
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December 31st, 2007, 01:54 PM
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Killer Snail
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Originally Posted by Divide Et Impera
A GE between Paul and Obama would be AWESOME for America....
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So you think a racist vs a bigot would be great for America?
Ron Paul is a racist, who supports racist organizations.
He is a nutcase extremist.
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December 31st, 2007, 02:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dback Jon
So you think a racist vs a bigot would be great for America?
Ron Paul is a racist, who supports racist organizations.
He is a nutcase extremist.
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Prove it or take it back.
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