Gee, who are you voting for?

Donald · August 31st, 2008, 10:38 PM

Or do you know yet?

Just curious. You are active on the forums but haven't let on if you have a lean one way or another.

I am actually interested in your viewpoint.

Gee! · August 31st, 2008, 11:33 PM

Trying to see thru all the crap being spewed by both sides is sicking.. The only thing I can from of the letters R and D, spell D.R. .. Which is fitting cuz its making me sick and they both need to come together to help heal America not tear it apart more..

Donald · September 1st, 2008, 12:02 AM

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Trying to see thru all the crap being spewed by both sides is sicking.. The only thing I can from of the letters R and D, spell D.R. .. Which is fitting cuz its making me sick and they both need to come together to help heal America not tear it apart more..

Well said. Do you buy the hope from Obama in bringing together the country to heal its wounds together? Personal responsibility and all that. Or do you feel McCain will help change the course and get us on the right track?

Are you looking at Bob Barr at all, or are you thinking of not voting at all?

I find your viewpoint on things pretty interesting because you have never really shown affinity for a party, but have been vocal in your distaste for politics in general (which I often agree with).

what do you want in a president, in the first place?

I don't know if others feel the same, but I think you embody a lot of voters who are pretty unhappy with the way things are, and the way things are going...and I wonder if you think this election is as important as many others who are party-loyal do.

just curious.

Gee! · September 1st, 2008, 12:10 AM

No I havent decided yet..

Donald · September 1st, 2008, 12:30 AM

Well, that was succint.

Any followup? What do you think about both candidates?

This is turning into the "Interview Gee! thread." I like it. Of course, if i get some answers.

Gee! · September 1st, 2008, 12:44 AM

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Well, that was succint.

Any followup? What do you think about both candidates?

This is turning into the "Interview Gee! thread." I like it. Of course, if i get some answers.

I guess I just have to feel strongly about something one way or the other before I say something.. And truth be told.. Neither one of these two candidates strikes my fancy.

Obama, when him and Hilary were battling, I could see myself voting for him at that time.. But since he's won.. He just keeps repeating the same thing over and over.. I dont feel feel like he's talking to me.. I kinda feel like he's talking down on me now..

McCain, he has kinda stayed low so its kinda hard to judge him on the things I wanna hear about so far.. So I have nothing either way about him..

Ive always been a person that watches the debates closely.. So its really early in the game for me to form a decision.. I am this way because not a poltician Ive ever seen has talked to me..

But what is odd is you included that I might not vote at all.. Ive never beenn this far along in a Presidential race and not formed some kind of an opinion, so I just might not vote at all because either of them seem about the same in my eyes.. Unless some progress is made with things where they stand.. That might be the thing that actually happens..

Donald · September 1st, 2008, 12:52 AM

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I guess I just have to feel strongly about something one way or the other before I say something.. And truth be told.. Neither one of these two candidates strikes my fancy.

Obama, when him and Hilary were battling, I could see myself voting for him at that time.. But since he's won.. He just keeps repeating the same thing over and over.. I dont feel feel like he's talking to me.. I kinda feel like he's talking down on me now..

McCain, he has kinda stayed low so its kinda hard to judge him on the things I wanna hear about so far.. So I have nothing either way about him..

Ive always been a person that watches the debates closely.. So its really early in the game for me to form a decision.. I am this way because not a poltician Ive ever seen has talked to me..

But what is odd is you included that I might not vote at all.. Ive never beenn this far along in a Presidential race and not formed a decision, so I just might not vote at all because either of them seem about the same in my eyes.. Unless some progress is made with things where they stand.. That might be the thing that actually happens..

Thanks for replying....interesting that you feel Obama is just repeating things to you. And that McCain is kind of low key in your view at the moment. It will be interesting to revisit this after the RNC, to see if you have a different opinion.

Maybe you are middle america!

Debates are going to be interesting.

A followup question, do you have any feeling, this way or that, for the VP candidates of Biden and Palin? How do they sway you, if at all?

This is sounding like a political poll, Gee only. Maybe telling, maybe not.

Does not voting at all sound more appealing to you than voting for either candidate if you don't feel they are the "right one" at the time?

Gee! · September 1st, 2008, 12:58 AM

I find it intersting Obama selected one of McCains boys.. That should be interesting..

And I think McCain took Palin with strong intentions that it could lead to drilling in Alaska for oil..

I give the nod to McCain on this one.. He seemed more sherwed in his pick to me..

Donald · September 1st, 2008, 01:06 AM

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I find it intersting Obama selected one of McCains boys.. That should be interesting..

And I think McCain took Palin with strong intentions that it could lead to drilling in Alaska for oil..

I give the nod to McCain on this one.. He seemed more sherwed in his pick to me..

Why do you think Biden is one of McCain's boys?

I don't personally think that McCain is for drilling..he has said he isn't. In fact, it's one thing he and Palin disagree on. She's also not pro big oil, but that's for debate. You don't think he took Palin to shore up the far right? If so, that's pretty interesting in its own right.

Gee! · September 1st, 2008, 01:19 AM

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Why do you think Biden is one of McCain's boys?

I don't personally think that McCain is for drilling..he has said he isn't. In fact, it's one thing he and Palin disagree on. She's also not pro big oil, but that's for debate. You don't think he took Palin to shore up the far right? If so, that's pretty interesting in its own right.

I thought its pretty common that McCain and Biden been cool.. When McCain crosses the aisle (one of the very reasons Ive always loved McCain).. As far far Palin.. Everyone says McCain got pressured to take her cuz she female.. I think he got pressured to take her for the oil.. Which will keep the R's happy.. Of course this is all very priliminary and when we wake up tomorrow this whole board will be attacking what I said, but after, all they are the end and know it all's.. Im a mere little dude that cant pick a side.. Which I cant.. Screw it.. But Ive been a person that finds facts in ironic things.. Its Alaska..

The debates are coming soon,, And then I might have a more definitive opinion..

Cant wait for the backlash.. lol.. Catch feelings P&R, its what you do best.. You never change my mind with your harsh words..

Chris_Sanders · September 1st, 2008, 01:33 AM

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I find it intersting Obama selected one of McCains boys.. That should be interesting..

And I think McCain took Palin with strong intentions that it could lead to drilling in Alaska for oil..

I give the nod to McCain on this one.. He seemed more sherwed in his pick to me..

McCain is staunchly against drilling in ANWR. So much so, that they pulled drilling in ANWR off the Republican ticket. It is something I agree with him on. No drilling on park land for foreign owned oil companies.

Gee! · September 1st, 2008, 01:38 AM

And when I say neither of these or any politician has spoken directley to me.. I mean.. I dont think they are talking in a way that would make the poor, the real poor, better.. I hear no talk of getting new books in schools.. I hear no talk of getting liquor stores off every corner in poor neighborhoods.. Do you know a 40oz of OE is almost a dollar cheaper in Scottsdale than in Glendale? Whys that? Not that I want it cheaper just I dont drink that mess no more.. Why in Scottsdale are the roads better? Why in Scottsdale can I get pulled over just cuz I look like I dont belong there? Its definitley a catch 22.. And it aint by accident.. Why are prisons getting funded more than educating the youth? Its big business.. Thats why.. None of these candidates talk about it.. The city keeps growing outward cuz they fleeing from the crime.. And everyone bitches.. LOCK THEM UP! THEY ARE NO GOOD! Everyone wants an easy way out.. They blame people in a music form that are only talking about what they view as messed up hoping someone will listen.. Instead, the same ones they are trying to reach, condem them and give blame..

Its a dirty game..

Gee! · September 1st, 2008, 01:40 AM

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McCain is staunchly against drilling in ANWR. So much so, that they pulled drilling in ANWR off the Republican ticket. It is something I agree with him on. No drilling on park land for foreign owned oil companies.

Like I said.. I think McCain felt pressure for the oil, and not cuz she's a female..

Gee! · September 1st, 2008, 01:56 AM

I remember as a young young man back in Glendale.. One of my friends never wanted me to come over to his house.. I could never figure it out.. His house was in a dirt field.. Some what of a makeshift shack.. Now, I didnt have the best of pad either.. Shoot, I had already been in houses that were messed up and it just was what it was.. But this dude had a pad from hell.. A calender covering the holes so no daylight came in.. No air.. The door had barely a lock.. This was in the late 80's.. These are the things I saw.. So when it came time a few years later, when everyone was crabs trying to get out a bucket.. The people with the money were the ones and they wore colors.. This was the 80's and money came in the form of a rock.. It was a way out.. I wasnt gonna say no, I wanted out too.. Id be damned if I was gonna live like that my life.. Then came the guns.. Then came the beer to make a young man brave enuff to pull that trigger.. BUT! My friends (I dont call them homies), they seen something in me to not let me go down that road.. I was never in a gang.. They always had my back no matter I wasnt in the gang.. They always said Im too smart for this and Id be better trying to help in a different way then blasting someone in the face.. Now I seen some things.. But never did them myself..

So this is where I stand and why I dont think none these politicians are talking to me..

Donald · September 1st, 2008, 02:00 AM

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Do you know a 40oz of OE is almost a dollar cheaper in Scottsdale than in Glendale? Whys that? Not that I want it cheaper just I dont drink that mess no more..

Probably because the Glendale city has put a tax on luxury/sin items and it raises the cost there. Do you want it to be higher in the lower income areas so they have easier access to cheap alcohol? Cheaper in the lower income part is more a problem than it being more expensive. I don't see the logic there.

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Why in Scottsdale are the roads better?

Taxes...people pay sick high taxes in the scottsdale city taxes because they have more money. Thus, their amenities are better. That's how it goes. If the people in Maryvale had monster incomes like the scottsdale residents have, they'd have a ton of tax dollars too, and they'd allocate them to roads, or schools, or what have you. It is simply where the dollars are. A problem, yes. but it isn't anything wrong per se. They just have more money, and thus better stuff.

Why in Scottsdale can I get pulled over just cuz I look like I dont belong there?

Dunno..how many times you been pulled over vs. others who look like you? If it is a problem, it will see the light of day.

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Why are prisons getting funded more than educating the youth?

Because we have way too many people holed up for minor crimes...a huge problem. And because we don't pay teachers near enough, nor do we care. and when a program comes along, it puts severe strain on teachers to teach to a group of kids who have a classroom problem...some want to learn, others dont...and the ones that don't drag the ones that do down because we have to teach them all on the same scale without any local control of what equals success. It is a huge mess. Education is terrible because we can't tier students...we can only measure by grade. bullcrap.

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Its big business.. Thats why.. None of these candidates talk about it.. The city keeps growing outward cuz they fleeing from the crime.. And everyone bitches.. LOCK THEM UP! THEY ARE NO GOOD! Everyone wants an easy way out.. They blame people in a music form that are only talking about what they view as messed up hoping someone will listen.. Instead, the same ones they are trying to reach, condem them and give blame..

Kind of, yeah. Kind of. But that's not all.

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Its a dirty game..

Yes it is.