July 14th, 2006, 08:04 AM
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UN Resolutions (the real thread)
Just wante dot get some thoughts
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July 14th, 2006, 08:21 AM
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DEFENSE!!!!
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swd, your fingers are a little wobbly this morning. Have a rough night?
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July 14th, 2006, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by swd1974
Just wante dot get some thoughts
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PWI???
UN resolutions will be useless, except for the fact that they provide the basis, i.e. - justification, for further action.
It's a significant exception... but it is the only useful purpose of the UN resolutions. A resolution only produces positive outcome when the target of the resolution is co-operative. Neither Iran nor North Korea are likely to be co-operative.
I wish to be clear that I don't think that it is in the U.S. interest to be pushing nor leading the call for action. Our government was too eager to attack Iraq, hopefully we won't make the same mistakes again.
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July 14th, 2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CardLogic
PWI???
UN resolutions will be useless, except for the fact that they provide the basis, i.e. - justification, for further action. .
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You would think but what about the dozens of resolutions on Iraq that were ignored. Anyone against the Iraq war doesnt care about them.
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July 14th, 2006, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by swd1974
You would think but what about the dozens of resolutions on Iraq that were ignored. Anyone against the Iraq war doesnt care about them.
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SHHHHHH!!!!
It was only about WMD.
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July 14th, 2006, 02:39 PM
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"When Iranian and Syrian fingerprints can be found on the violence-by-proxy in Gaza and Lebanon, when global Islamist organizations like Al-Qaeda export the means and the money and the motive to attack Western and non-Islamic interests worldwide, it just doesn't make sense anymore to pretend that one can just bribe the local bully and make it all go away. It's not enough just to duck a punch in a playground fight if one fails to recognize one is surrounded by others who want you taken down as well, and your friends with you.
There are times one needs to recognize one is not just in a little skirmish, but is instead at risk of being picked off by an organized group as it fights for control over the playground. At those times, it's not enough to duck a punch or give a bully your lunch. One needs to enlist allies and back each other up, even if it means being late for chess club."
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July 15th, 2006, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AZZenny
"When Iranian and Syrian fingerprints can be found on the violence-by-proxy in Gaza and Lebanon, when global Islamist organizations like Al-Qaeda export the means and the money and the motive to attack Western and non-Islamic interests worldwide, it just doesn't make sense anymore to pretend that one can just bribe the local bully and make it all go away. It's not enough just to duck a punch in a playground fight if one fails to recognize one is surrounded by others who want you taken down as well, and your friends with you.
There are times one needs to recognize one is not just in a little skirmish, but is instead at risk of being picked off by an organized group as it fights for control over the playground. At those times, it's not enough to duck a punch or give a bully your lunch. One needs to enlist allies and back each other up, even if it means being late for chess club."
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July 15th, 2006, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AZZenny
"When Iranian and Syrian fingerprints can be found on the violence-by-proxy in Gaza and Lebanon, when global Islamist organizations like Al-Qaeda export the means and the money and the motive to attack Western and non-Islamic interests worldwide, it just doesn't make sense anymore to pretend that one can just bribe the local bully and make it all go away. It's not enough just to duck a punch in a playground fight if one fails to recognize one is surrounded by others who want you taken down as well, and your friends with you.
There are times one needs to recognize one is not just in a little skirmish, but is instead at risk of being picked off by an organized group as it fights for control over the playground. At those times, it's not enough to duck a punch or give a bully your lunch. One needs to enlist allies and back each other up, even if it means being late for chess club."
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I've been screaming these words on this damm board for the last several weeks... Taking this a bit deeper... Zenny, in order fight back against a bully, one must first have the courage to actually see the bully for what he is. In this case, Israel most certainly fully understands the true depth of evil and hate, found within its'/our enemy. With the exception of a few cowards, I believe America does as well...
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July 17th, 2006, 04:30 PM
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Nuke 'em! 
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