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The feds have no right to spy on a US citizens activities 3 15.00%
Corporations have no right to spy on US citizens activities 5 25.00%
As long as they have a reason it's OK 7 35.00%
As long as it's only sales generated it's OK 0 0%
As long as it's not conversation related it's OK 1 5.00%
There's nobody spying on me so I don't care. 1 5.00%
Only those with something to hide would participate in this poll. 1 5.00%
No citizen is beyond suspicion. 2 10.00%
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Old December 25th, 2005, 08:23 PM   #1
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Spying on America-Phase one


This poll is going to have several advancing stages. Answer this one the best you can with the knowledge it's going to go further.

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Old December 26th, 2005, 02:33 AM   #2
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#1 and #2 are equal choices, so I find it impossible to choose one while excluding the other, but then is there really a difference between government and corporate business?
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Old December 26th, 2005, 06:20 AM   #3
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That was my delima in making this poll Wally. There are two areas of spying that are prevalent in todays society.

Criminal Spying- Watching or eaves dropping on potentual criminal activity that may harm the general public. This includes everything from radar guns checking your speed to wire taps and email interception.

Behavioral Spying- The tracking and data basing of an individuals habits, tendancies and movements.

It was quite apparent to me that many people were up in arms over the federal governments use of wire taps in an attempt to track or locate terrorists. But people aren't taking into account they are being spyed on every day in a manner that makes wire taps the morse code of spying.

What system is this? The frequent shopper card. Yes, you read that right, the frequent shopper card is by far the most infringing and dangerous of all spying techniques.
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Old December 26th, 2005, 10:05 AM   #4
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electronic funds tracking and purchase behavior monitoring sure do generate a lot of junkmail that ends up in my mailbox - that's offensinve.
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Old December 26th, 2005, 10:12 AM   #5
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Old December 26th, 2005, 04:21 PM   #6
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electronic funds tracking and purchase behavior monitoring sure do generate a lot of junkmail that ends up in my mailbox - that's offensinve.
The junkmail you received wasn't by accident. It was a calculated move based upon your buying habits.

This is the point I'm trying to make. The general public is so ignorant of what is really tracking them and yet so distracted by W not getting wire taps approved. How short sighted people are.

The average US citizen hasn't even begun to contemplate what is happening here. Heck, the above average citizen is clueless.
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Old December 26th, 2005, 04:30 PM   #7
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The junkmail you received wasn't by accident. It was a calculated move based upon your buying habits.
I assume you post that knowing that I know that.
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Old December 26th, 2005, 04:40 PM   #8
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I assume you post that knowing that I know that.
I post that assuming you don't fully comprehend the ramifications. Tell me what the information possibilities of tracking you beyond if you need a coupon for toilet paper because it's been three weeks since you purchased some are. Now you may get my poll.
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Old December 27th, 2005, 04:40 PM   #9
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I can't believe so few have so little to say about this.

It's a legal tracking system that makes wire tapping pale in comparison.

It's OK I guess. Get in an uproar about W approving taps on up to 80,000 but then willingly participate by the millions in tracking yourselves.
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Old December 28th, 2005, 12:54 PM   #10
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I'm cheerfully unparanoid.
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Old December 28th, 2005, 01:56 PM   #11
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As long as they have a reason, but by reason I mean WARRANT!!!!!
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As long as they have a reason, but by reason I mean WARRANT!!!!!
and if by warrant, you mean the office of the presidency...
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#1 and #2 are equal choices, so I find it impossible to choose one while excluding the other, but then is there really a difference between government and corporate business?
There should be.......and it is a huge problem there is not.
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and if by warrant, you mean the office of the presidency...
Thats Crap, but a mighty fine joke. (where is the smiley?)
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As long as they have a reason, but by reason I mean WARRANT!!!!!
No warrant needed. You voluntarily signed up.
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