October 5th, 2005, 02:18 PM
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Should physician assisted suicide be legal?
I think Djaughe put the cart before the horse on his poll, so I am starting a new one.
I think it should be allowed in circumstances where the patient has a terminal condition or disease. I think people should have the right to die in dignity without pain, when faced with suffering a drawn out horrible death.
I don't anyone has the right to deny them this. I don't understand why people think they do have the right to deny them this either. 9/10 the people against are ultra-religious and attempting to force their beliefs on people they do not know and have never met.
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October 5th, 2005, 02:25 PM
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DEFENSE!!!!
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Suicide is such an ugly word and carries such negative conatations.
If people are terminally ill and in great pain, the choice should be theirs and their families. The government has no business sticking their noses into this area.
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October 5th, 2005, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 40yearfan
Suicide is such an ugly word and carries such negative conatations.
If people are terminally ill and in great pain, the choice should be theirs and their families. The government has no business sticking their noses into this area.
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Amen Brother 40.
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October 5th, 2005, 02:40 PM
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Where is the "Don't make me think so much!" option?
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October 5th, 2005, 02:40 PM
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What is terminally ill? Aren’t we all going to die at some time? Does that mean that someone who is given 5-10 years has the right to take his own life or is it just for people that have less then 1 year to live. How much pain do they have to be in or is that irrelevant?
Why is it limited to just terminally ill people? Remember you should not be able to force your beliefs on anyone.
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October 5th, 2005, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DKCards
Why is it limited to just terminally ill people?
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Is it?
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October 5th, 2005, 02:46 PM
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Too much good stuff
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Originally Posted by DKCards
What is terminally ill? Aren’t we all going to die at some time? Does that mean that someone who is given 5-10 years has the right to take his own life or is it just for people that have less then 1 year to live. How much pain do they have to be in or is that irrelevant?
Why is it limited to just terminally ill people? Remember you should not be able to force your beliefs on anyone.
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What's your point? Why are you baiting people with this?
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October 5th, 2005, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rivercard
What's your point? Why are you baiting people with this?
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My point is….. people call out other saying “don’t force your beliefs on me” when the fact is that any law made is created from someone’s belief in what is right or what is wrong. Who has any rights to make any laws?
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October 5th, 2005, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DKCards
My point is….. people call out other saying “don’t force your beliefs on me” when the fact is that any law made is created from someone’s belief in what is right or what is wrong. Who has any rights to make any laws?
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OK..... you sound a little paranoid. Nobody is forcing their beliefs on anyone here. If physician assisted suicide were legal, and if you personally were terminally ill and in never-ending pain you wouldn't have to end it all. It would be your choice.
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October 5th, 2005, 03:00 PM
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Hopefully this is not off-topic.
There are some physicians that will not perform a legal abortion due to their personal and/or professional beliefs. Some of whom have been subject to peer review or legal actions.
If a physician assisted suicide law is enacted, will the medical community be required to perform the act as in the abortion situation?
The moral conflict that we display on this board is minor in comparison to what a physician must deal with due to their oath to protect life.
I have friends that have had to kill another for a perceived threat that was later found out to be a "suicide by cop" situation. They properly did their job, but the haunting doesn't stop.
If it's suicide "they" want, then commit it. But don't take a route that destroys someone else with them.
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October 5th, 2005, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DKCards
My point is….. people call out other saying “don’t force your beliefs on me” when the fact is that any law made is created from someone’s belief in what is right or what is wrong. Who has any rights to make any laws?
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We aren't talking about stealing here. We are talking about a person that is suffering, is going to die suffering and wants it to end. That is none of your business. If you want to die in severe pain and suffering to the end, that is your choice. You should not have the right to tell others how they should die, when they are in this situation. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. I also don't know why you think you should have that right.
Try and stay on topic here please DK. I don't feel like going in circles over some moronic analogy you want to bring up that has nothing to do with this topic.
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October 5th, 2005, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by KingofCards
We aren't talking about stealing here. We are talking about a person that is suffering, is going to die suffering and wants it to end. That is none of your business. If you want to die in severe pain and suffering to the end, that is your choice. You should not have the right to tell others how they should die, when they are in this situation. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. I also don't know why you think you should have that right.
Try and stay on topic here please DK. I don't feel like going in circles over some moronic analogy you want to bring up that has nothing to do with this topic.
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i think he raises an interesting point, though. are there going to be parameters to this, or can anyone assist in any suicide. after all, wouldn't that be the person's right, to choose whether or not they want to live, and who they want to help them take their life?
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October 5th, 2005, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Derm
Hopefully this is not off-topic.
There are some physicians that will not perform a legal abortion due to their personal and/or professional beliefs. Some of whom have been subject to peer review or legal actions.
If a physician assisted suicide law is enacted, will the medical community be required to perform the act as in the abortion situation?
The moral conflict that we display on this board is minor in comparison to what a physician must deal with due to their oath to protect life.
I have friends that have had to kill another for a perceived threat that was later found out to be a "suicide by cop" situation. They properly did their job, but the haunting doesn't stop.
If it's suicide "they" want, then commit it. But don't take a route that destroys someone else with them.
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A doctor should not be forced to do an abortion or a "mercy killing" if it is against his moral judgement. If someone wishes to follow one of these paths, they need to make sure they have a doctor who is amenable to doing this.
Trying to force a doctor to perform either of these practices against his wishes is just as bad as telling people they aren't in charge of their own bodies or telling someone what religion he has to be a member of.
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October 5th, 2005, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 40yearfan
A doctor should not be forced to do an abortion or a "mercy killing" if it is against his moral judgement. If someone wishes to follow one of these paths, they need to make sure they have a doctor who is amenable to doing this.
Trying to force a doctor to perform either of these practices against his wishes is just as bad as telling people they aren't in charge of their own bodies or telling someone what religion he has to be a member of.
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agreed.
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October 5th, 2005, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jenna2891
i think he raises an interesting point, though. are there going to be parameters to this, or can anyone assist in any suicide. after all, wouldn't that be the person's right, to choose whether or not they want to live, and who they want to help them take their life?
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I agree there should be some parameters. I am mostly concerned with the terminally ill and suffering.
I think most people are against physician assisted suicides for anyone that wants one, though I do see that the reason for bringing it up is for the usual b/s slippery slope argument.
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